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WHAT is the actual value of a Pie-Pan Constellation?

ErichKeane
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Welp, I perhaps made a bad decision, but saw this on ebay, put in too high of a bid, and ended up winning. 561 powered 168.005. Looks like pretty sharp lugs and a bad crystal, dial looks reasonably clean from everything I can tell. Paid just enough to get the free 'authenticator', so it'll be a little extra time for it to show up.

Bracelet is a Spiedel (not authentic), but i'll almost definitely put it on leather anyway.

Here's the listing for anyone who cares: https://www.ebay.com/itm/277709923119

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ErichKeane ErichKeane
Welp, I perhaps made a bad decision, but saw this on ebay, put in too high of a bid, and ended up winning. 561 powered 168.005. Looks like pretty sharp lugs and a bad crystal, dial looks reasonably clean from everything I can tell. Paid just enough to get the free 'authenticator', so it'll be a little extra time for it to show up.

Bracelet is a Spiedel (not authentic), but i'll almost definitely put it on leather anyway.

Here's the listing for anyone who cares: https://www.ebay.com/itm/277709923119

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The link you have takes me to a different watch:

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Screwbacks
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Wow. a Turler. and original glass with omega logo mark. a little TLC, it will be a beauty. 👍
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This is an interesting thread, I have 2 constellations, one dog leg, gold cap with a dome dial and one stainless, dog leg pie pan. (Well, 3 actually, the 3rd being a C case.)
Both are without the date complication, both I think are in good condition, but not perfect.
I am €2500 into these, which I consider to be a substantial sum, I’m the old guy astonished by the current price of milk, “back in my day”…
I believe no dates to be higher value than date versions as they tend to be rarer, correct me if I’m wrong though. I’ve had these for maybe 3 years now, or thereabouts, I was late to the Connie bug. I’ve not thought much about price and until this tread was unaware of the value increase. I think these watches are, at what I paid, to be excellent value for the quality of these pieces, hard to get anything modern of this quality for the price. Would I like a ‘perfect’ example? sure, but I am happy with these and I enjoy wearing them, I don’t intend to sell, but it’s nice to know that they still have value, my son will be the beneficiary.
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ErichKeane
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Wow. a Turler. and original glass with omega logo mark. a little TLC, it will be a beauty. 👍
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Urgh, yeah, IDK how to control how Ebay does that with 'completed' auctions. We have the same problem in the vintage thread too.
 
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Urgh, yeah, IDK how to control how Ebay does that with 'completed' auctions. We have the same problem in the vintage thread too.
It’s very annoying, imo.
I notice if you modify the link by removing the .com with another country (e.g. .ca), then the completed auction is shown. If someone knows a better way, please share.
 
gatorcpa
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If someone knows a better way, please share
I’m using the eBay app on my phone and I am seeing the correct completed auction.

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Not sure if that is the answer, but worth a try.
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ErichKeane ErichKeane
Welp, I perhaps made a bad decision, but saw this on ebay, put in too high of a bid, and ended up winning. 561 powered 168.005. Looks like pretty sharp lugs and a bad crystal, dial looks reasonably clean from everything I can tell. Paid just enough to get the free 'authenticator', so it'll be a little extra time for it to show up.

Bracelet is a Spiedel (not authentic), but i'll almost definitely put it on leather anyway.

Here's the listing for anyone who cares: https://www.ebay.com/itm/277709923119

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I think you're starting to land on the answer to your thread's initial question -at least for an eBay pie pan with lots of promise, in need of a service, sans bracelet. They sell for around $2k, give or take a few hundred. Looks to be the reality.
 
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I don't know how you would determine the "actual value" of any vintage watch. Generally, it's how much a buyer is willing to pay to acquire it.
 
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I don't know how you would determine the "actual value" of any vintage watch. Generally, it's how much a buyer is willing to pay to acquire it.
Of course. Some buyers will purchase with compulsion or ignorance and some sellers may be distressed and really need fast cash. Outliers, on either end. But if you list an item for sale you need to start somewhere, right? Value = what buyers are consistently paying for comparable examples in similar condition. It can only ever be a range. An auction format will account for "willingness" in some cases, I suppose, if there's a bidding war.

People's "willingness" to spend more or less over time, consistently, will ultimately result in a change in value.

The value of my input here, 2 cents
 
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You could say the same about houses or anything else. Even at Walmart, if it doesn't sell at a price, for long enough, the price will go down.

We use common sense to find the average of the range that often sold objects achieve. Anything rarely sold depends more upon marketing and getting the object in front of the right audience to achieve its maximum value. But the value often is whatever the last one sold for, plus an adjustment for time and possibly increased/decreased desirability.
 
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You could say the same about houses or anything else. Even at Walmart, if it doesn't sell at a price, for long enough, the price will go down.

We use common sense to find the average of the range that often sold objects achieve. Anything rarely sold depends more upon marketing and getting the object in front of the right audience to achieve its maximum value. But the value often is whatever the last one sold for, plus an adjustment for time and possibly increased/decreased desirability.
I understand what you're saying and generally you're correct. Everything has a range, maximum value, etc. That being said, I don't think that your analogy between a house and a vintage watch is a good one. Everyone needs a house whether it's rented or purchased -- it's hard to live without it. No one needs a vintage watch. You buy it because you want it. Trust me, I have a few of those vintage watches and I'm very happy to have them -- but I'd quickly dump all of them if I needed housing.
 
gatorcpa
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I guess when you figure in the buyer’s premium, it makes more sense. BTW, I’m not sure that the markers on that watch are onyx from the pictures shown. Could be painted. Would need to know serial number to get an idea on that.
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