What Constellation reference is this ?

christhomas · May 17, 2016

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262408407753?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Just idly surfing Constellations on Ebay and came across this one. Anbody know what reference it is ?

What's confusing me is that from the picture of the back it appears to me to be a monocoque case but the only Constellation monocoques that I can find (167.015, 168.015, 168.025 etc) are C shaped cases.

I not planning to buy it - just academic interest

cristos71 · May 17, 2016

That is a fake one. Looks like some kind of frankened Seamaster De Ville or something similar.

christhomas · May 17, 2016

That is what I was wondering. I bought my son a Seamaster DeVille, pictured below, last year for his 21st. The watch in question looks identical except for the Constellation dial. Is there any chance that there was a rare Constellation version using this case ?

cristos71 · May 17, 2016

cicindela · May 17, 2016

This is a beautiful and rare Omega 18 ct gold automatic chronometer from 1969/70.
It was a long-service presentation watch given to my grandfather at the time of his retirement in 1970.
Its automatic movement runs like a dream.
The face measures 24mm/26mm with the crown, and the lug width 20mm, length 42mm.
It is in Immaculate condition. My father doesn't think he ever wore it. It has an Omega alligator leather strap on it, with an Omega gold buckle.
I have no idea what has happened to the paperwork. I came across it in this beautiful wooden box, which I can't think is original but lovely nevertheless.
I have it insured for a sum commensurate with its rarity and ease of replacement which would be virtually impossible. I have not seen one like it.

The seller only forgot to mention that he is a complete BS artist and that his grandfather must have lived in Mumbai

JohnSteed · May 17, 2016

Thanks for a laugh. That's one 'connie' you'd best avoid. It's not

JohnSteed · May 17, 2016

There are quite a few (many) examples you can see here

https://omegaforums.net/threads/vintage-constellations-show-and-tell.19186/

christhomas · May 17, 2016

You have to be careful these days. It's quite possible that his grandfather did live in Mumbai.

Do you think the dial is from a genuine Constellation ?. I haven't seen markers exactly like that but the font looks reasonable to my untrained eye

cicindela · May 17, 2016

christhomas
You have to be careful these days. It's quite possible that his grandfather did live in Mumbai.

Do you think the dial is from a genuine Constellation ?. I haven't seen markers exactly like that but the font looks reasonable to my untrained eye

No again, the dial is fake
The font is fake
The markers are fake
The hands are fake

cristos71 · May 17, 2016

Jeez, that dial is real ugly, nothing like an original.

Hijak · May 17, 2016

cristos71
That is a fake one. Looks like some kind of frankened Seamaster De Ville or something similar.

cicindela
No again, the dial is fake
The font is fake
The markers are fake
The hands are fake

You guys are all off! ::facepalm1::

This is the ultra rare Constellation De Ville!!!🥰 Just because you haven't seen one doesn't mean
they don't exist!😉

Willem023 · May 17, 2016

Or just a prototype?

😜

Peemacgee · May 17, 2016

David Bowie tribute Connie
#Black star

Willem023 · May 17, 2016

Peemacgee
David Bowie tribute Connie

cross dresser?

Willem023 · May 17, 2016

(btw: I love Bowie!)

christhomas · May 17, 2016

Thanks for all the comments on this. I am still puzzled by the case though. If it were a Seamaster case with some kind of franken Constellation dial fitted it would have the seamonster embossed on the back but this case has a constellation observatory ? Was there any Constellation reference that used a case of this type ?

Surely nobody would go to the trouble of machining off a seamaster logo and somehow bonding a Constellation one in its place ?

Kja · May 17, 2016

christhomas
That is what I was wondering. I bought my son a Seamaster DeVille, pictured below, last year for his 21st. The watch in question looks identical except for the Constellation dial. Is there any chance that there was a rare Constellation version using this case ?

The lugs on yours are angled and the way they are attached longs much nicer, I don't think the original watch case is omega, out looks like someone just glued a constellation medallion on a fake. Those markers are deffinetly not omega. The printing and furniture is horrible.

TNTwatch · May 17, 2016

christhomas
Thanks for all the comments on this. I am still puzzled by the case though. If it were a Seamaster case with some kind of franken Constellation dial fitted it would have the seamonster embossed on the back but this case has a constellation observatory ? Was there any Constellation reference that used a case of this type ?

Surely nobody would go to the trouble of machining off a seamaster logo and somehow bonding a Constellation one in its place ?

The Constellation medallion can sometimes fall off its case and could be easily attached to the back of a Deville case. While there are other vintage Constellation models still unknown to the world, the one you found in no way can be one, especially with that repainted dial.

The one bellow is a more credible candidate, but there's no way to verify it since the seller refuses to provide internal pictures. At least the dial is a genuine one. (Note that this seller also has a well-known fake gold Connie on sale for a while.)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311614608795

What Constellation reference is this ?

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