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So here is the spring. It is made from 0.6mm thick steel, 1.46mm wide. As you can see, the shape is quite complex:



Yes, it does look kinds scary: But at some stage I am going to have to muster the courage to take the movement out of the case because there is definitely something going on inside. As you can see, there is no stem and when I just bought one to put in, I tried to insert it and some spring (!) is pushing it out again so that it can't be inserted or tightened.
 
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So here is the spring. It is made from 0.6mm thick steel, 1.46mm wide. As you can see, the shape is quite complex:
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Things getting a bit worse with my watch: As i mentioned, at first i couldn't push the stem in because something was springing it out again. I must have turned the stem retaining screw too far as it seems to have come off its plate and won't screw back in again now.

Are there likely to be any problems with getting the movement out so that I can check to see firstly how to get that screw in and secondly whether that spring is actually in there. Does it run along the side of the movement, between the movement and the case or should it protrude out of the movement anywhere?

Is this in reality a fantastically difficult piece to get in properly please? If it is in there, I don't see how it could come out and I wonder if this is the reason my repairer didn't want to try getting it back in, preferring to say that it isnt there and if needed, can't be replaced?
 
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Lemania 15TL ... yet branded otherwise

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(pics credit are from the previous owner)

Also have a 15CHT and a 2225 ...
 
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Have to get me one of those Auricoste's Type 20 some day soon! Lovely watches!
 
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DManzaluni DManzaluni
Things getting a bit worse with my watch: As i mentioned, at first i couldn't push the stem in because something was springing it out again. I must have turned the stem retaining screw too far as it seems to have come off its plate and won't screw back in again now.

Are there likely to be any problems with getting the movement out so that I can check to see firstly how to get that screw in and secondly whether that spring is actually in there. Does it run along the side of the movement, between the movement and the case or should it protrude out of the movement anywhere?

Is this in reality a fantastically difficult piece to get in properly please? If it is in there, I don't see how it could come out and I wonder if this is the reason my repairer didn't want to try getting it back in, preferring to say that it isnt there and if needed, can't be replaced?


I suspect that when you removed the screw, the setting lever has moved and the hole won't align with the one through which the screw passes. This is no big drama but the movement will have to come out to put the screw back in.

To get the movement out, you will have to remove the hammer and the operating lever as well as the screw that holds in the reset pusher. As to whether it is a bitch to re-case, I don't yet know.
 
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Have to get me one of those Auricoste's Type 20 some day soon! Lovely watches!

I'm ready to swap for a Swaf viggen 😜
 
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My 2 Lemanias, I used to have an ATP but sold it long ago. A humble aged auto but it is a great chunky, comfortable case and keeps great time. And the inevitable WWW but quite a good example I think. There is something 'special' about a Lemania branded watch, dunno what?
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Hello all. I’m a newbie to watchmaking and collecting so please bear with me. I came across this thread while I was researching a recent purchase. I wanted to see if you guys could help shed some light on exactly what I have. As for the watch, the start/stop works but the reset doesn’t. Also the chrono runs extremely fast. The watch portion doesn’t seem to work. I tried to put the crown on outside the watch but was unsuccessful. I didn’t push it, not knowing if it was the proper crown. Hope you can help.
 
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Damn...how could I miss this? My kind of thread. Here are some of mine (unfortunately only chronos)...

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(This one belongs to the missus)
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Hello all. I’m a newbie to watchmaking and collecting so please bear with me. I came across this thread while I was researching a recent purchase. I wanted to see if you guys could help shed some light on exactly what I have. As for the watch, the start/stop works but the reset doesn’t. Also the chrono runs extremely fast. The watch portion doesn’t seem to work. I tried to put the crown on outside the watch but was unsuccessful. I didn’t push it, not knowing if it was the proper crown. Hope you can help.


Lemania with a Wakman logo.
Most likely sold in the US market.
With your description of issues it will surely need a service.
If you are new to watchmaking, I would strongly recommend not to attempt this yourself.
Chronograph repairs require proper training.

If you look under the balance , the four digit reference number should be visible. 1270 perhaps?
 
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Northernman Northernman
Lemania with a Wakman logo.
Most likely sold in the US market.
With your description of issues it will surely need a service.
If you are new to watchmaking, I would strongly recommend not to attempt this yourself.
Chronograph repairs require proper training.

If you look under the balance , the four digit reference number should be visible. 1270 perhaps?
Yes, I definitely will not attempt this myself anytime soon. I have a watchmaker that has done some amazing things, so I may send it to him. I found a replacement dial for it, minus the "Wakmann" (instead 105). What are the thoughts of putting the NOS dial on versus cleaning it up as is?
 
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Northernman Northernman
Lemania with a Wakman logo.
Most likely sold in the US market.
With your description of issues it will surely need a service.
If you are new to watchmaking, I would strongly recommend not to attempt this yourself.
Chronograph repairs require proper training.

If you look under the balance , the four digit reference number should be visible. 1270 perhaps?
I pulled the balance. Indeed, 1270 with a cross and LWC I'm assuming.
 
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Yes, I definitely will not attempt this myself anytime soon. I have a watchmaker that has done some amazing things, so I may send it to him. I found a replacement dial for it, minus the "Wakmann" (instead 105). What are the thoughts of putting the NOS dial on versus cleaning it up as is?
I always recommend keeping stuff original. A 105 dial would be appropriate for the movement, but not for the case.
Ask your watchmaker to see what he could do to the dial. I’ve seen worse dials turn out fantastic after a bit of trained TLC.
 
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I always recommend keeping stuff original. A 105 dial would be appropriate for the movement, but not for the case.
Ask your watchmaker to see what he could do to the dial. I’ve seen worse dials turn out fantastic after a bit of trained TLC.
Do you recommend a good resource to learn about Lemania chronos? I figured it was a 105. What would be an example of an appropriate dial for this case? Yes, my watchmaker cleaned up my Wakmann dial...it looks brand new. I'm just bummed the outside numbers aren't there.

Also, it has "252" on the inside of the case back.
 
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Good resources on Lemania is hard to find.

ref 252:
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note: Dials and hands may/will vary. It’s a case ref.
 
Northernman
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Isn't that the same case though?? I'm confused already. LOL
Yeah. Lemania references denote the case and (usually) movement inside. The customer could choose from different dial/hand variants when placing the order. Lume/non-lume and so on.
 
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Yeah. Lemania references denote the case and (usually) movement inside. The customer could choose from different dial/hand variants when placing the order. Lume/non-lume and so on.
"The customer" meaning a watch brand ordering in bulk? Or could an individual also have gotten a watch made to order?
 
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