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·I'll be sure to ask whether the mainspring is original if I ever want to buy.
(sheesh)
Tom
(sheesh)
Tom
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I'll be sure to ask whether the mainspring is original if I ever want to buy.
(sheesh)
Tom
To the OP: I think what these guys are trying to say is the dial lost it "originality" when it lost its foot. so when you go to sell it, depending on what you going to be trying to get for it, its going to depend on what the buyer likes, and would have done. If you leave it as is, you might only have 30% of Collectors wanting it just because its untouched yet broken. If you fix it you might lose that 30% but gain another 30% of people that want it because it has a quality repair. But then its still a broken watch when its l said and done. However if you do it cause you like it, and it make you feel better about the watch, then by all means do it.
I have to speak up here...collecting vintage watches is not for everyone, It takes a great deal of time and endless amounts of knowledge. This is not something you can learn about in a few weeks or even months, it takes years of dedication and effort to understand all of the nuances in just one brand, HELL, in just one line of one brand! There are many new people here who have jumped into collecting, seeing all the beutiful watches here, thinking to themselves, how hard can this be. They haven't put in the time and effort required to understand what they are looking at and will (and do) get burned. Also these watches are 50, 60, 70+ years old, things will go wrong. It's like owning a vintage automobile😉, no matter how well you maintain it, it can still leave you on the side of the road with an overhearing engine or an oil leak (don't ask me how I know this, I just do). If these things can be taken in stride then collecting will be fun, if not it will be miserable. As a person who's been here for a little while it's hard to watch all of the "I just got this watch off eBay how'd I do" threads. If people only spent a little time here and read one of the hundreds of threads suggesting to inquire first, purchase last, they would've had a far better experience. On that note, many of the long time collectors here have spent countless hours scouring multiple venues for the knowledge so readily available here. Many who come here seem to not want to expend any effort and just ask "I found a watch, what do I have." This is totally disrespectful to the collector who has expended sweat and sleepless nights to acquire this information...with just a little effort most of the info needed can be found here or around the Internet. Those who have shown a little initiative are rewarded with far better treatment here, and rightly so! Access to the knowledgable here is a privilege, not a right! I guess my point here is, don't wear out your welcome before you're welcome!
Anyway, please understand that this rant was not just derived from this thread but from the culmination of many. Also no fingers are being pointed at any individual, but at a general trend on Omega Forums...Oh, and no animals were hurt during the testing for this rant!😉
And finally, I'm not claiming to be any kind expert or anything like that, just hoping you show some common courtesy to those who have come before you as collectors...
Cheers,
Ed
LOL. All I said was that I have scaled down my collection to one and expressed my frustration regarding vintage (not the forum or members) after being in the hobby for the last six months. Yes this will probably not be for me long or mid term, as I will stick with Omega modern. It was you who came out firing all his guns at once in your previous communication not me.
Did you even read my post, seems you didn't...try reading it this time, it has little to do with you!🙄
Did you even read my post, seems you didn't...try reading it this time, it has little to do with you!🙄
Just FYI, it is a lot easier to find parts for vintage watches than for modern ones. Most of those parts were distributed years ago. As older watchmakers retire, their parts collections are sold off and recycled. Good independent watchmakers know where to find these supplies. Service costs may become more expensive, but should be doable for the foreseeable future.
The modern watches are the ones whose owners will suffer in future years. These are the ones with more specialized parts, where manufacturers can cut off production of spares with a click of a mouse. That means when it breaks 20 years later, you own a very expensive paperweight. Oh, and even if it can be fixed, you're stuck with factory service, where you have no say what will or won't be done to your watch. All of this is before the big depreciation hit that one is going to take, even on a second-hand modern watch.
I know where I'd rather take my chances.
gatorcpa
Your right I did not read it properly you just made a general point. I read it to fast and my dyslexia does not help. However, no manufacturers warranty, parts not available or near impossible to find, damage that can occur out of our control and it can be impossible to spot until a service can show up hidden horrors late in the day. For me, I have kept just one vintage and have my modern Seamaster 300m arriving early next week with its manufacturers warranty and parts availiability.
It's obvious that you should stick to modern watches, and next time your ready to shoot someone down...read what they actually wrote first!😉
I was not trying to shoot anyone down my dyslexia put me at a disadvantage, even though you had not officially criticised me directly you did decide to come out firing all your guns all at once whoever they were directed to. Thanks for your understanding regarding my learning disability, what a great guy you are. Yes I will focus more on modern but still have one vintage left. Remember it is only a HOBBY vintage or modern, no one died.