Vintage Speedmaster newbie

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Barters

·Jun 8, 2020

Hi all,

Please do not smash me but I am more of a Rolex guy......
I have however decided that I need to add some more brands to my collection & I have decided on the Speedie. When I was 30 & buying my first nice watch it was between the Speedie & the Sub. I went with the Sub & the rest is history. I have however never lost that itch.

Now what I struggle with vs vintage Rolex is that the vintage Speedie is really unchanged (at least to my eye) since forever. I can buy either a new model or for slightly more a 90s Speedie (which is actually slightly more).
The "vintage models" I am looking at a 3750.50 or 3590.50. These were the last of the tritium dials so have that patina.

I have shared a photo of one of them. From an investment point of view I am not looking to make money, just not waste it. Does it make more sense to either suck it up & spend much more for an older model or a brand new model?

Thanks!

 

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mac_omega

·Jun 8, 2020

Hello and welcome to OF

I like the creamy colour of the lume plots... Going by the single photo is always a gamble when you can´t see the watch at various angles and very important would be a photo of the movement to give you further advice

 

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Barters

·Jun 8, 2020

Luckily it is in a store in town (I live in Geneva) so will go see it this weekend. First wanted to do a bit of homework!

 

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apsm100

·Jun 8, 2020·Noob taxpayer

I think I would go for a modern Speedy over a 90's one personally. The tritium lume is nice but if you take a look at early 70's Speedmasters there is a general warmth to the dial that even the 90's ones miss.

 

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efauser

·Jun 8, 2020

apsm100

I think I would go for a modern Speedy over a 90's one personally. The tritium lume is nice but if you take a look at early 70's Speedmasters there is a general warmth to the dial that even the 90's ones miss.

But will likely gain in another 20 years.

 

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Barters

·Jun 8, 2020

Would the 90s dial still warm? It would be one of a collection & I am imagine will spend plenty of time in the safe. Being in the dark as I understand it is what develops the patina.

 

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efauser

·Jun 8, 2020

Why wouldn't it?

 

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Barters

·Jun 8, 2020

I’ve no clue how it develops. If it continues to then a 90s model might be perfect. I’m 40!

 

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Dan S

·Jun 8, 2020

I would try to buy one where the lume matches on hands and dial. And you might as well get one with box and papers. If you are going to get a modern one, I would go with an LE.

 

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rootbeer7

·Jun 8, 2020

I answered your post elsewhere, but I purchased a very late (1997) 145.00 with a tritium dial. It’s got all the vintage references, but is relatively new with the later movement.

 

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Barters

·Jun 8, 2020

Might I ask what would you pay for that?

 

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Seaborg

·Jun 8, 2020

I would go for the neo-vintage one.
My 3570.50 says hello.

 

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rootbeer7

·Jun 8, 2020

Barters

Might I ask what would you pay for that?

I’m in the Uk and it was for sale for £3250, head only on a leather strap. It is a joint ref 3570, from what I understand means it has the newer movement. It’s in lovely shape and dial patina is exquisite.

 

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rootbeer7

·Jun 8, 2020

Seaborg

I would go for the neo-vintage one.
My 3570.50 says hello.

Superb patina.

 

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Swissgmt1675

·Jun 8, 2020

Being in Geneva too i would expect to see this one for 4k chf as watch only..Not full set..

 

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STANDY

·Jun 8, 2020·schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector

Barters

Would the 90s dial still warm? It would be one of a collection & I am imagine will spend plenty of time in the safe. Being in the dark as I understand it is what develops the patina.

Well if it’s investment and keep in a safe you would want a 321 or a 861 so 1969 Or before.
If your asking what will increase more it’s the above watches anything after will hold value.
A 70s or 90s is more of a wear watch.

I bought new in 2013 and could sell for what I paid in 2013 due to increase in new each year.
I also bought both the Speedy Tuesday watches and don’t think I have lost anything there either.

 

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·Jun 9, 2020

Swissgmt1675

Being in Geneva too i would expect to see this one for 4k chf as watch only..Not full set..

I can see it for 4500 CHF. No idea if it comes with box or papers. Any advice where to visit?