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Vintage Pie Pan Constellation- Franken, Redial or Good to Go?
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theluckyluke
·S ShaunvdlJust about to buy this, I have done some reading but thought I would share here to check if anyone has an opinion on whether its a franken/redial etc.
Reference Number: 168.010.11
Serial number: 23946690
Many thanks in advance
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Shaunvdl
·Just about to buy this, I have done some reading but thought I would share here to check if anyone has an opinion on whether its a franken/redial etc.
Reference Number: 168.010.11
Serial number: 23946690
Many thanks in
Reference Number: 168.010.11
Serial number: 23946690
Many thanks in
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MtV
·Very much a redial, positioning of Swiss Made alone…
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dsio
··Ash @ ΩFWelcome to the forum. Please create a new thread to get feedback on a particular watch. Thanks.
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theluckyluke
·I am no expert on this reference but there are a few things that don’t stack up.
The dial marks should be for pie pan but this one doesn’t have the pie pan edges. The markers are not consistent in size and positioning, the font isn’t correct - for instance look at the automatic writing - so dial repainted or redone at some point.
The case has been polished. I think the hidden crown is correct for this reference, but not too sure.
The bracelet is too small.
The watch is 18k gold so definitely has some value, but the redial and the rest degrade most of the premium above gold value.
The dial marks should be for pie pan but this one doesn’t have the pie pan edges. The markers are not consistent in size and positioning, the font isn’t correct - for instance look at the automatic writing - so dial repainted or redone at some point.
The case has been polished. I think the hidden crown is correct for this reference, but not too sure.
The bracelet is too small.
The watch is 18k gold so definitely has some value, but the redial and the rest degrade most of the premium above gold value.
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Dan S
·Do not buy, the dial is terrible.
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Shaunvdl
·Thanks
"positioning of Swiss Made alone"- what does this mean?
"positioning of Swiss Made alone"- what does this mean?
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TexOmega
·Plus the minute marks are all over the place............redial-city.
Fonts and spacing are off, too.
Fonts and spacing are off, too.
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Peemacgee
·I am no expert on this reference but there are a few things that don’t stack up.
The dial marks should be for pie pan but this one doesn’t have the pie pan edges. The markers are not consistent in size and positioning, the font isn’t correct - for instance look at the automatic writing - so dial repainted or redone at some point.
The case has been polished. I think the hidden crown is correct for this reference, but not too sure.
The bracelet is too small.
The watch is 18k gold so definitely has some value, but the redial and the rest degrade most of the premium above gold value.
Some earlier hidden crown pie pans (.004s) had very soft edges but .010s tend to have well defined pie pan edges.
This is a redial which often heavily softens pie pan dials but it is also an early .010 (cal 561) so it’s possible, coupled with the redial, that it has a ‘transitional’ softer-edged pie pan dial.
The crown is one of the optional replacement crowns for this reference.
The case is polished and a little soft for my liking.
The redial certainly kills it for me.
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theluckyluke
·Some earlier hidden crown pie pans (.004s) had very soft edges but .010s tend to have well defined pie pan edges.
This is a redial which often heavily softens pie pan dials but it is also an early .010 (cal 561) so it’s possible, coupled with the redial, that it has a ‘transitional’ softer-edged pie pan dial.
The crown is one of the optional replacement crowns for this reference.
The case is polished and a little soft for my liking.
The redial certainly kills it for me.
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theluckyluke
·Not much of a thread for posterity anyway..!
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Shaunvdl
·Some earlier hidden crown pie pans (.004s) had very soft edges but .010s tend to have well defined pie pan edges.
This is a redial which often heavily softens pie pan dials but it is also an early .010 (cal 561) so it’s possible, coupled with the redial, that it has a ‘transitional’ softer-edged pie pan dial.
The crown is one of the optional replacement crowns for this reference.
The case is polished and a little soft for my liking.
The redial certainly kills it for me.
Thanks for the above, much appreciated. How much do you think it's worth?
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Shaunvdl
·I am no expert on this reference but there are a few things that don’t stack up.
The dial marks should be for pie pan but this one doesn’t have the pie pan edges. The markers are not consistent in size and positioning, the font isn’t correct - for instance look at the automatic writing - so dial repainted or redone at some point.
The case has been polished. I think the hidden crown is correct for this reference, but not too sure.
The bracelet is too small.
The watch is 18k gold so definitely has some value, but the redial and the rest degrade most of the premium above gold value.
Thanks for the above, much appreciated. How much do you think it's worth?
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theluckyluke
·S ShaunvdlThanks for the above, much appreciated. How much do you think it's worth?
