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what happened to your post where you said the OPs watch looked weird?
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what happened to your post where you said the OPs watch looked weird?
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bgrisso
·no, before the above post with the picture of a watch. The OP posted a connie asking if it was original and you said it looked weird. I was having a look at it myself yesterday trying to see if I could spot any issues, and now the post is gone. You don't remember?
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Eve
·If you want to send a watch like this to Omega, that's your choice, however just because there is no tritium lume doesn't mean they won't replace things that people may not want replaced.
Hands are typically replaced regardless, so I would say there's a very good chance they would be replaced. There is a 100% chance that the crown will be replaced. Although the dial doesn't have any lume, Omega will take a piece of peg wood (small wooden stick) and dig at the edge of the dial, and if the finish on the dial lifts at all, dial replacement or refinishing is mandatory.
Omega is not unique in being able to properly service a movement. For anyone who wants to be sure that the work will be limited to the scope that they want, and not what Omega wants, Omega is not a good choice.
Cheers, Al
I was not aware that they check the dial with pegwood, if this is the case, then i would be more carefull!
I thought that redial is part of a restoration and not part of a full service, and that they would not perform it unless the customer agrees to it, but maybe i am wrong with my assumptions.
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··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungerssome slight spotting to the dial and a replacement crown - but from that one pic the case looks to be really good. (Even better than the pie pan case)
Probably a 14902 (or the very earliest 168.005) from the missing text dial.
At $600 I’d be snapping this watch up too.
Only query I have is why a ‘private seller’ is selling two quality Connies at something like half market value?
One you can understand but two means they must know what they have (unless they’re an inheritance I suppose)
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Sam11
·some slight spotting to the dial and a replacement crown - but from that one pic the case looks to be really good. (Even better than the pie pan case)
Probably a 14902 (or the very earliest 168.005) from the missing text dial.
At $600 I’d be snapping this watch up too.
Only query I have is why a ‘private seller’ is selling two quality Connies at something like half market value?
One you can understand but two means they must know what they have (unless they’re an inheritance I suppose)
It belongs to his father so they are one owner watches. Now the son is out of work and the father not that well so they have decided to sell
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersok, I guess that makes sense.
It’s always difficult when it looks like you’re taking advantage of someone down on their luck - but if the seller is aware of what they have and is happy with the price (and would rather make a quick sale than wait for a better price) then no foul.
I’ll just repeat myself by saying that, if you have the money, I’d be buying the dome dial dogleg as well at that price.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerLook, i dont disagree with you, neither am i proposing sending it to Omega for service. i just thought that saying "Omega will ruin it" was not fair.
I was not aware that they check the dial with pegwood, if this is the case, then i would be more carefull!
I thought that redial is part of a restoration and not part of a full service, and that they would not perform it unless the customer agrees to it, but maybe i am wrong with my assumptions.
Omega has a document called the Handbook for Vintage Diagnostics. It outlines all the checks that are done on vintage watches, and what is acceptable or not, and what course of action is mandated when something doesn't pass. It's in this document where they talk about the checks made on dials (and many other parts), and it's not just limited to the one I mentioned. If a dial foot is broken off or even bent severely, the action is to replace the dial, not try to fix it. I've had watches come in that look perfectly fine, only to find dial feet broken off when I start disassembling the watch. So you as the customer would have no idea of this when you send the watch in.
But you don't have to believe me on this issue, as there are examples that people on the forum have posted where Omega has done things they didn't want done, without any prior notification. It happens, and if you want an example of a dial that was in good cosmetic condition being refinished without prior consent, here you go:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/information-requested-for-my-seamaster-chronograph.63469/
The owner ended up being okay with it, but the fact is the work was done without asking. In fact, he specifically asked not to have the dial or hands changed, yet they went ahead anyway.
The fact is sending any vintage watch to Omega risks it being treated in a way that the owner has no control over. If you call that potentially being "ruined" or not may be up to your perspective on vintage watches. The person who's chronograph was redialed despite him specifically asking for the dial to be left alone didn't think so, but many here would.
Cheers, Al
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·Omega has a document called the Handbook for Vintage Diagnostics. It outlines all the checks that are done on vintage watches, and what is acceptable or not, and what course of action is mandated when something doesn't pass. It's in this document where they talk about the checks made on dials (and many other parts), and it's not just limited to the one I mentioned. If a dial foot is broken off or even bent severely, the action is to replace the dial, not try to fix it. I've had watches come in that look perfectly fine, only to find dial feet broken off when I start disassembling the watch. So you as the customer would have no idea of this when you send the watch in.
But you don't have to believe me on this issue, as there are examples that people on the forum have posted where Omega has done things they didn't want done, without any prior notification. It happens, and if you want an example of a dial that was in good cosmetic condition being refinished without prior consent, here you go:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/information-requested-for-my-seamaster-chronograph.63469/
The owner ended up being okay with it, but the fact is the work was done without asking. In fact, he specifically asked not to have the dial or hands changed, yet they went ahead anyway.
The fact is sending any vintage watch to Omega risks it being treated in a way that the owner has no control over. If you call that potentially being "ruined" or not may be up to your perspective on vintage watches. The person who's chronograph was redialed despite him specifically asking for the dial to be left alone didn't think so, but many here would.
Cheers, Al
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Eve
·Omega has a document called the Handbook for Vintage Diagnostics. It outlines all the checks that are done on vintage watches, and what is acceptable or not, and what course of action is mandated when something doesn't pass. It's in this document where they talk about the checks made on dials (and many other parts), and it's not just limited to the one I mentioned. If a dial foot is broken off or even bent severely, the action is to replace the dial, not try to fix it. I've had watches come in that look perfectly fine, only to find dial feet broken off when I start disassembling the watch. So you as the customer would have no idea of this when you send the watch in.
But you don't have to believe me on this issue, as there are examples that people on the forum have posted where Omega has done things they didn't want done, without any prior notification. It happens, and if you want an example of a dial that was in good cosmetic condition being refinished without prior consent, here you go:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/information-requested-for-my-seamaster-chronograph.63469/
The owner ended up being okay with it, but the fact is the work was done without asking. In fact, he specifically asked not to have the dial or hands changed, yet they went ahead anyway.
The fact is sending any vintage watch to Omega risks it being treated in a way that the owner has no control over. If you call that potentially being "ruined" or not may be up to your perspective on vintage watches. The person who's chronograph was redialed despite him specifically asking for the dial to be left alone didn't think so, but many here would.
Cheers, Al
I guess i was lucky when they serviced my watch. They didnt even change my hands (as i asked them to leave them) even though they were scratched.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI agree, i wouldnt want my watch to be redialed against my wish, in fact, i would be pretty pissed, especially at the price point he paid for work.
I guess i was lucky when they serviced my watch. They didnt even change my hands (as i asked them to leave them) even though they were scratched.
Yes, I've heard these same things before that "I asked them not to change it and they listened." But that's the wrong conclusion. If they didn't change something, it was most likely because they determined the parts didn't need changing, not because you asked them not to change them.
Sometimes personal experience, which people tend to value a great deal more than someone like me stating policy, can be quite misleading.
Cheers, Al
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Eve
·Yes, I've heard these same things before that "I asked them not to change it and they listened." But that's the wrong conclusion. If they didn't change something, it was most likely because they determined the parts didn't need changing, not because you asked them not to change them.
Sometimes personal experience, which people tend to value a great deal more than someone like me stating policy, can be quite misleading.
Cheers, Al
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