Vintage Omega Constellation Arrowhead

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Hi! Can I check if vintage Omega Pie Pan dial With Arrow markers shouldn’t have the T Swiss Made T wording on the dial?

Thanks for your help.
 
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Need better pics, but my guess is a redial, the script didnt line up properly.
 
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Well, there’s no lume on the dial or hands, so it shouldn’t have Ts.
There are Arrow head dials with lume but I’m not sure that they were ever produced late enough for Ts on the dial.
Finally, this looks like a 168.010 case and so couldn’t have an arrowhead dial but even if is the earlier 168.004 reference, I’ve never seen one with an arrowhead dial.
As above, better pics needed to see if it is even a genuine Omega dial.

do you have any additional images?
 
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Well, there’s no lume on the dial or hands, so it shouldn’t have Ts.
There are Arrow head dials with lume but I’m not sure that they were ever produced late enough for Ts on the dial.
Finally, this looks like a 168.010 case and so couldn’t have an arrowhead dial but even if is the earlier 168.004 reference, I’ve never seen one with an arrowhead dial.
As above, better pics needed to see if it is even a genuine Omega dial.

do you have any additional images?

This is a white gold version.
 
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Do you know what reference the case is, or do you have an image of the case back?
The date of the watch is important as there are doglegs in the 62/63 range with arrowhead dials.
Black dials were special order - and if it is white gold as you say, then it could be a special order watch.

There are lots of reasons why this might not be correct but with Omega never say never.
If it is a redial, it’s nicely done but it still shouldn’t have Ts with no lume.
 
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I agree with @Peemacgee about “T Swiss T”.
Maybe someone swap the arrowhead markers to this watch?
Teerapat
 
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Person who posted this in Constellation FB group also posted this one few days ago so..
 
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Person who posted this in Constellation FB group also posted this one few days ago so..
Yes I have also posted.

As I was told C sharp Constellation should come with flat dial and not Pie Pan.
 
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Finally, this looks like a 168.010 case and so couldn’t have an arrowhead dial but even if is the earlier 168.004 reference, I’ve never seen one with an arrowhead dial.
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Hope this photo is better..
When I look at the (I think you call it) non faceted lugs it could'nt be a 168.010 unless it was polished to death. And they look too thick for a 168.004 lug.
 
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I think it's a newer batch of counterfeit Constellations from the far east.
IIRC, @hoipolloi showed a gold dial version from Vietnam once that was scarily good.
 
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I also have some strong doubts about this one. If it were me I would'nt touch it.
 
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IMO it's just a little bit odd that the same person asks for 2 very suspicious and never seen before watches with one being obvious franken.
 
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IMO it's just a little bit odd that the same person asks for 2 very suspicious and never seen before watches with one being obvious franken.


I’ve always been a fan of the saying “innocent until proven guilty”

however, these two watches have certainly piqued some interest.
both white gold - which is rare enough in its own right and both with (likely) non-contemporaneous dials.
IIRC the C-case was from HK?

@maxbliss888 it would be really useful if you could give us some more information about the background to the watches.
And more pictures of the black arrowhead dial one.
 
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I’ve always been a fan of the saying “innocent until proven guilty”
Sorry, what I meant is maybe theese watches came from same dealer who liked to play with Lego's when he was a kid 😁
As seen in FB group, member asked for info on c shape but already owns black dialed one so it won't be problem to pop up case back and show what's inside.
 
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Sorry, what I meant is maybe theese watches came from same dealer who liked to play with Lego's when he was a kid 😁
As seen in FB group, member asked for info on c shape but already owns black dialed one so it won't be problem to pop up case back and show what's inside.

Firstly, I am not a dealer but a watch collector. I am more of a vintage Rolex collector but occasionally I am attracted by the Omega Gold constellation.

i have been offered these two white gold watches from a vintage watch shop in Hong Kong which is why I am posting to ask if there are issues with the watches.

For those who is keen, you can visit my Instagram madbliss888_francis_Phua as I am not a criminal and I have nothing to hide. As an individual, it is impossible to know everything and every watches which is why I have joined the forum to learn. Hope that this information will out to rest some of your suspicions
Sorry, what I meant is maybe theese watches came from same dealer who liked to play with Lego's when he was a kid 😁
As seen in FB group, member asked for info on c shape but already owns black dialed one so it won't be problem to pop up case back and show what's inside.
 
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Firstly, I am not a dealer but a watch collector. I am more of a vintage Rolex collector but occasionally I am attracted by the Omega Gold constellation.

i have been offered these two white gold watches from a vintage watch shop in Hong Kong which is why I am posting to ask if there are issues with the watches.

For those who is keen, you can visit my Instagram madbliss888_francis_Phua as I am not a criminal and I have nothing to hide. As an individual, it is impossible to know everything and every watches which is why I have joined the forum to learn. Hope that this information will out to rest some of your suspicions
Francis, you got it all wrong. I didn't say that you were dealer rather that these 2 watches maybe came from same dealer who tried to scam you or someone else.
But then again, in FB post you posted picture of last 2 watches, claiming that you only need rose gold one, on which @hoipolloi replied to you with his one. So now I'm condused, do you own black dialed Connie or not?
 
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Yes, I have bought the White gold Constellation from the Vintage watch shop in HK with the arrow marks dial and posted on FB Constellation group. Following which, a fellow collector Teerapat from the Omega FB group has message me and highlighted to me that the dial should not have the T Swiss Made T and he has advised me to post it on The Omega Forum for comments, which I did.