I have seen this vintage IWC Cal 89 at my watchmaker with wonderful guilloche dial. However similar to the VC dial question i posted, i am doubtful the dial is original - it seems to be a reprint. The dial is simply too clean for such an old watch, with no signs of aging. Also the quality of the IWC print seems substandard upon close inspection.

Opinons please.

thanks,

Stefan

 

Reprint. Without a doubt.

 

Interesting, I was going to say that the printing looks ok to me.

 

I disagree. A high percentage of the SCHAFFHAUSEN signatures were slightly angled to the right, but I have seen more than a few examples that weren't. IWC also employed a number of different dial manufacturers over the decades, and there were variances in the quality of the printing.

I also suspect that the dial is not typical, and that the metal surface should not be expected to degrade in the same manner as more common dial variations.

Likely original, in my view.

 

thanks, i may post there as well.

 

thank you for your feedback. Could you briefly elaborate why yout believe it is re reprint without doubt?

 

thank you for your feedback Tony.
Stefan

 

cleaning techniques do not affect silver ink composition? I always had the idea that polishing was involved in redials in order to obtain a plate and work it from scratch. this usually takes the texture of the guilloche and many times the second hand concentric threads

 

thanks everyone for your feedback and expertise, it is apprecited!
best,
Stefan

 

Stefan, let us know,what the IWC fora will tell you!

 

I say original. That kind of font is known.

 

It’s such a minefield with these vintage IWC watches

 

Did you ever have any input from anyone over at the IWC forum?

 

Another example to compare:

 

Mine says hi!

 

I've personally owned quite a few vintage IWCs, but am by no means an expert.

To me, like most others have said, I'd say it looks fine and original to me. There seem to be several variations of both the 'iwc' and the 'schaffhausen'.

These are some below from my personal past collection. Not 100% sure if they're all 100% original and not redialed, but at the very least, getting that fine a print I'm not sure you can do without proper machinery at the very least. Particularly things like the dot above the 'i' and the small line underlining 'co' are very very fine details.

Best thing you can do (in my opinion) is just trying to compare against other examples. I'd say the post 2 post above with the yellow gold watch cal89 has a very similar/identical print to yours, which is a good sign!

 

Don't know if it's the aging, but the print is very uncertain, it isn't neat.
I would bet for a reprint.