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Is this IWC cal 89 dial too good to be true?

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Watch is in Germany, listed for around $3100, but negotiable. Listing says it was originally purchased from Goldammer.

The dial is so clean (to my eyes), I have to wonder if it's been re-finished...

Also, anyone with knowledge of this ref: is it (as the listing claims) really 37mm? Others that I think of the same model say 35, so I'm wondering if some people are measuring in a funny way.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Hmm, hard to tell based on the pics, as there's no 'straight-on' pic. But for a watch said to be from 1950 in the listing, you can try matching it to some of the known variants below.

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Thank you! There are more pics in the listing, including some that are head-on, but they're not as tight and close as I'd need to do a detailed comparison with your images. Maybe I can see if the seller can provide one.
 
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Nice watch !
Goldammer is a reputable dealer who is also on Instagram and here ; Classic Vintage Watches – Goldammer Vintage Watches

This "shark fin" model cal 89 is often listed as 37mm, but i think without the crown it is just under so 36,7 mm. It has one of the nicest Italic script logo`s of the era, and from the C24 pictures i say it is correct - unless it is a completely new pad printed dial. Several others can be found by google search from Menta and other sellers so you can compare the pictures. Good Hunting !
 
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Ron_W Ron_W
Nice watch !
Goldammer is a reputable dealer who is also on Instagram and here ; Classic Vintage Watches – Goldammer Vintage Watches

This "shark fin" model cal 89 is often listed as 37mm, but i think without the crown it is just under so 36,7 mm. It has one of the nicest Italic script logo`s of the era, and from the C24 pictures i say it is correct - unless it is a completely new pad printed dial. Several others can be found by google search from Menta and other sellers so you can compare the pictures. Good Hunting !

Thanks for this feedback! It's so much cleaner than all the others I've found---and I'm just skeptical enough to find that worrisome as much as exciting. 😀
 
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IWC are quality watches. I’ve seen a great number with very old original dials in excellent condition.

Pictures here are way too out of focus to be able to express an opinion on originality of the dial.

I think the price is very high for what it is.
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The price does seem high, but also seems to be around what they get listed for---usually in lesser quality.

I've contacted the seller about a better dial pic.

UPDATE: as yet, no reply from the seller. (Wrote my note in German and English.) Probably need to move on, even though I like this watch quite a bit.
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Ron_W Ron_W
Nice watch !
Goldammer is a reputable dealer who is also on Instagram and here ; Classic Vintage Watches – Goldammer Vintage Watches

This "shark fin" model cal 89 is often listed as 37mm, but i think without the crown it is just under so 36,7 mm. It has one of the nicest Italic script logo`s of the era, and from the C24 pictures i say it is correct - unless it is a completely new pad printed dial. Several others can be found by google search from Menta and other sellers so you can compare the pictures. Good Hunting !

I don't think the IWC that the OP has posted is a 'shark fin' IWC. The shark fin ones have rather different lugs, see this prior OF ad for one that sold a few years ago, and another sold by Goldammer previously.

As for redial, I've seen a few vintage watches from different brands, sold by Goldammer, that looked like redials (at least to me, like the one below)
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So just like for any dealer or seller, best to ask for good photographs and do your due D.
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I don't think the IWC that the OP has posted is a 'shark fin' IWC.

Correct, the OP posted watch has the thinner lugs, the shark fin`s are wider. It is however a common monniker , like fancy lugs, to help find more examples on the web for comparisson.
I think this typical Italic logo font is the most difficult to restore/repaint as it is such a fine print, and thus easy to spot. But with today`s tech it is possible to do an exact print over as some watch dial restorers on IG show.
So yes, ask for good pictures and make it clear upfront you dont want a redial 👍
 
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I have the same reference, and it is 37mm. These dials often hold up very well.
 
queriver
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The 2nd photo in the C24 listing shows subtle dial spotting under magnification. It's most visible between 12 and 4 but that might just be due to the dial angle and the way the camera focussed.
 
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