Vintage Help! Authentic? Any Issues?

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Found this watch for sale online, wondering if there are any authenticity issues with it? Any Red Flags? Any help from the experts would be highly appreciated!

 
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Which of the two watches are you asking about?
 
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Which of the two watches are you asking about?
whoops, did not mean to add pics of two watches. Just the first one.

 
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The first one (168.010) looks ok to me. This one is from Japan market so it is a bit rusty and of course it will need a proper service
 
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whoops, did not mean to add pics of two watches. Just the first one.


168.010 looks very nice.
Very good case.
Good looking dial but it does have some spotting.
Original (almost) hidden crown.
The rotor has some severe rub ( easily fixed)
The BOR may not be correct - or at least the 12 o clock end link looks too narrow - should be 19mm. (But it may be just pushed up as the 6 end link looks ok. )
You could clarify with seller.
Be aware that as Japanese watch the BOR may be quite small - there are only a couple of removable links left on one side of the bracelet.

Note: this is an early less common .010 as it has a cal 561 movt. ( most have the 564)
That shouldn’t be a worry but I’d personally like to see the serial number just to make sure it’s in the right ball park.

What’s the asking?
 
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168.010 looks very nice.
Very good case.
Good looking dial but it does have some spotting.
Original (almost) hidden crown.
The rotor has some severe rub ( easily fixed)
The BOR may not be correct - or at least the 12 o clock end link looks too narrow - should be 19mm. (But it may be just pushed up as the 6 end link looks ok. )
You could clarify with seller.
Be aware that as Japanese watch the BOR may be quite small - there are only a couple of removable links left on one side of the bracelet.

Note: this is an early less common .010 as it has a cal 561 movt. ( most have the 564)
That shouldn’t be a worry but I’d personally like to see the serial number just to make sure it’s in the right ball park.

What’s the asking?
asking is 1600
 
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According to the case/bracelet/endlinks list posted here, a 1068 bracelet would be paired with 527 endlinks if you end up purchasing.

I guess these photos are better than the usual "focus challenged" ones on Ebay, but the Klieg lights tend to obscure some of the case and dial issues by washing them out.
 
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Presume US $1600 /£1233
This wouldn’t be a bad price if it comes with a usable BOR.
But be aware, as @dougwhiz has said - the bleached out pics hide a number of knocks and dings.
The bottom left lug is scratched, the caseback has idiot marks from opening, the second hand is heavily patinated and the dial will have noticeable bubbling.