Vintage Constellation - Authenticity

dra43b · Mar 8, 2020

I stumbled upon this connie. Not very familiar with Constellations and was wondering if this js 100% original and untouched (not polished or redialed)?

Thanks a lot

ConElPueblo · Mar 8, 2020

It is neither 100% original nor unpolished. Few vintage watches are.

Why do you ask? Have you researched the reference? Are you looking to buy one - and would only consider a perfect 100% correct specimen?

Noddyman · Mar 8, 2020

What does the case back look like?

Edit: One thing I did notice which you may not spot. The regulator arm is slammed hard over one way (fast I think) so possibly needs a service.

Noddyman · Mar 8, 2020

Here’s my 14381 so you can compare cases.
It’s pretty good but I wouldn’t claim unpolished.

dra43b · Mar 8, 2020

ConElPueblo
It is neither 100% original nor unpolished. Few vintage watches are.

Why do you ask? Have you researched the reference? Are you looking to buy one - and would only consider a perfect 100% correct specimen?

I want a 100% original watch head. And prefer unpolished but would not rule it out.

dra43b · Mar 8, 2020

Noddyman
What does the case back look like?

Edit: One thing I did notice which you may not spot. The regulator arm is slammed hard over one way (fast I think) so possibly needs a service.

Good eye! Thanks for the info.

hoipolloi · Mar 8, 2020

D dra43b
I want a 100% original watch head. And prefer unpolished but would not rule it out.

This one is correct and original. Ref 14382.
Needs a correct crown.

hoipolloi · Mar 8, 2020

Noddyman
What does the case back look like?

Edit: One thing I did notice which you may not spot. The regulator arm is slammed hard over one way (fast I think) so possibly needs a service.

Is it?

janice&fred · Mar 8, 2020

I think the watch is a stunning survivor and I wouldn't sweat the small stuff like the crown and a bit of polishing in the past unless the price is way over the top.

Dan S · Mar 8, 2020

It's a nice watch, and mostly original, but the case is certainly worn and/or previously polished. If you aren't able to distinguish whether the case is polished or not, then you should probably spend more time studying watches until you are able to decide for yourself what matters to you. If you haven't already, please look at this thread:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/learn-how-to-fish.52603/

Peemacgee · Mar 8, 2020

I’m loving the dial but I’m not digging the case I’m afraid - too soft for my liking.
If it had a case like @Noddyman ’s it would be a buy, buy, buy, regardless of the wrong crown and slightly tired looking movement.
If you’re looking for a good ‘keeper’, have patience and hold out for a better example.

ConElPueblo · Mar 8, 2020

Peemacgee
I’m loving the dial but I’m not digging the case I’m afraid - too soft for my liking.
If it had a case like @Noddyman ’s it would be a buy, buy, buy, regardless of the wrong crown and slightly tired looking movement.
If you’re looking for a good ‘keeper’, have patience and hold out for a better example.

I feel the same.

@dra43b - if you are serious about finding one of these, you need to educate yourself.

1. What aspects are important to me?
2. Why do I want this particular reference?
3. What does a perfect specimen look like?
4. Referring to point 1, what would I be willing to compromise on?
5. How much am I willing to spend?

So, read up on the reference (Desmond's Constellation Blog and the Vintage Omega Watches subforum here are the best places to start), find out how much these go for in the open market and then cover all the important sales platforms and be ready to pounce when the stars align.

It's not that you shouldn't seek out knowledge here, but it is essential that you educate yourself first. Your first post tells me that you didn't see the obviously worn case or the replaced crown, which really should be beginner level knowledge.

Looking forward to following your progress 😀

hoipolloi · Mar 8, 2020

Sounds like an impossible task! Lots of guys here have been around for a long time still have to pay noob tax.

dra43b · Mar 11, 2020

Dan S
It's a nice watch, and mostly original, but the case is certainly worn and/or previously polished. If you aren't able to distinguish whether the case is polished or not, then you should probably spend more time studying watches until you are able to decide for yourself what matters to you. If you haven't already, please look at this thread:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/learn-how-to-fish.52603/

thanks for the link. Will check it out

VetPsychWars · Mar 11, 2020

D dra43b
I want a 100% original watch head. And prefer unpolished but would not rule it out.

There is honestly no way anyone could claim 100%. A watch from the 50s and worn usually has been serviced a dozen times, meaning new crown, knew crystal, new movement parts, and so forth. About all you can do is say that the case, dial, and hands look correct and in good condition.

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