[Video] Speedy Tuesday Event Report — Biel Edition 2022

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Last week we held the first Speedy Tuesday Event again. It’s been a long time since the last one (for one obvious reason that has affected all of us). We received an incredibly high amount of registrations, but we were limited (no pun intended) to 50 people in total. For these 50 persons, Fratello and […]

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We have the picture of a lots of Omega Whales now 😀)))))
 
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#SpeedyTuesday and some interesting spaceflight related info... 👍
Interesting bit on the Bulova chronograph, while we all know that David Scott received and used Bulova time pieces during Apollo 15:
large Bulova stopwatch (timing 23 seconds DOI - Descent Orbit Insertion)
Bulova 885104 chronograph (used lunar EVA-3 onwards and seen in several lunar EVA photos e.g. AS15-82-11168)
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RJ -- thanks for your postings here on Omega Forums, they're much appreciated.
 
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Looks like a fantastic event, hopefully you will come to London soon!
 
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RJ -- thanks for your postings here on Omega Forums, they're much appreciated.

While they are still much appreciated, apparently it’s an essentially auto-generated posting feature as between certain of Fratello’s Omega-related content and the OF server.

Unclear how much anyone (much less RJ) is actually monitoring these auto-posts’ subsequent thread conversations?
 
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Interesting bit on the Bulova chronograph, while we all know that David Scott received and used Bulova time pieces during Apollo 15

Not, of course, issued by NASA, though - and also apparently without NASA’s permission, nor with Scott having properly vetted the watch as one of his approved personal items taken aboard the craft.

The entire Bulova saga being a rather sorted affair, with the company trying all manner of political or litigious pressure to unseat Omega’s position within NASA - but failing to provide any equipment adequate for the job.

Given the Bulova company’s overall behavior set, the Scott incident comes off rather suspect.

Alan Nelson’s 1993 article, while itself having some inaccuracies, was the result of extensive FOIA documentation that does itself and without commentary a rather good job of painting Bulova as … petty?

 
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I mentioned this on facebook but I’ll say it here too, Petros wins best dressed again. The red slacks with matching bow tie killed it, as usual. Head of Omega brand heritage & mens fashion icon at the same time.
 
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While they are still much appreciated, apparently it’s an essentially auto-generated posting feature as between certain of Fratello’s Omega-related content and the OF server.

Unclear how much anyone (much less RJ) is actually monitoring these auto-posts’ subsequent thread conversations?

I do 😀
 
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I mentioned this on facebook but I’ll say it here too, Petros wins best dressed again. The red slacks with matching bow tie killed it, as usual. Head of Omega brand heritage & mens fashion icon at the same time.

Word!
 
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I'd be interested in knowing how big the 321 atelier is, how many watchmakers are beavering away assembling the 321? That could give us an idea on how many of these watches are actually being made as they seem to be pretty rare now.
 
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I'd be interested in knowing how big the 321 atelier is, how many watchmakers are beavering away assembling the 321? That could give us an idea on how many of these watches are actually being made as they seem to be pretty rare now.

During the visit, there were like a handful of them. Not sure what that tells you in terms of production numbers, but I am pretty sure it's indeed between the 1000 and 2000 per year they said they would make.
 
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During the visit, there were like a handful of them. Not sure what that tells you in terms of production numbers, but I am pretty sure it's indeed between the 1000 and 2000 per year they said they would make.

If they hold this total production constant, while every year introducing a few new models using the 321…

It sure *feels* like the SS NEW321 has fewer and fewer new from-factory owners checking in on OF.
 
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If they hold this total production constant, while every year introducing a few new models using the 321…

It sure *feels* like the SS NEW321 has fewer and fewer new from-factory owners checking in on OF.

I am not sure if that's a realistic reference tbh. There's a world outside forums, magazines, social media, etc. Actually, I think I see more and more Calibre 321 watches popping up on the wrists of enthusiasts.

Anyway, the Calibre 321 models besides the steel one, so the platinum version with onyx dial and the Canopus white gold Broad Arrow, are much more limited. They don't eat that much from the Calibre 321 "cake".
 
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During the visit, there were like a handful of them. Not sure what that tells you in terms of production numbers, but I am pretty sure it's indeed between the 1000 and 2000 per year they said they would make.
Thanks, good to get a field report. You really wouldn't need more than a handful of watchmakers to assemble, time and case 2,000 pieces a year. I guess the big question is will Omega ever increase yearly production or will they keep it as a halo production item? I would guess they will keep it as a hard to get niche product.
 
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Thanks, good to get a field report. You really wouldn't need more than a handful of watchmakers to assemble, time and case 2,000 pieces a year. I guess the big question is will Omega ever increase yearly production or will they keep it as a halo production item? I would guess they will keep it as a hard to get niche product.

From the start, Omega's CEO has been very clear about this. It's a maximum of 2000 caliber 321s in total per year, there are no plans to double or triple this number. It's a niche thing, and a separate production process from all the other references, except the tourbillon watches. There it's a bit similar, there's a separate workshop/atelier for Omega watches with a tourbillon movement.
 
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I am not sure if that's a realistic reference tbh. There's a world outside forums, magazines, social media, etc. Actually, I think I see more and more Calibre 321 watches popping up on the wrists of enthusiasts.

Of course, of course - though since Omega gives us enthusiasts so little actionable information, we’re left to our tarot cards and reading the future in coffee grounds 😁


Anyway, the Calibre 321 models besides the steel one, so the platinum version with onyx dial and the Canopus white gold Broad Arrow, are much more limited. They don't eat that much from the Calibre 321 "cake".

While I assume the same as you here, if playing the devil’s advocate:

(1) because margins are much higher in precious metals examples, if I’m Omega I’m going to fill every precious metal order before any stainless order, and

(2) if Omega annually only makes 1000 cal.321’s in a given year it doesn’t take many global precious metal sales to have a material impact on the “cake” - is Omega selling 100 or 500 of these precious metal per year?

In any event, I’m deeply aware that the lack of information from Omega is by design to create just this very discussion and attention - so none of it is intended as complaint, but instead intrigue and obedient fan behavior. 👍
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Of course, of course - though since Omega gives us enthusiasts so little actionable information, we’re left to our terot cards and reading the future in coffee grounds 😁




While I assume the same as you here, if playing the devil’s advocate:

(1) because margins are much higher in precious metals examples, if I’m Omega I’m going to fill every precious metal order before any stainless order, and

(2) if Omega annually only makes 1000 cal.321’s in a given year it doesn’t take many global precious metal sales to have a material impact on the “cake” - is Omega selling 100 or 500 of these precious metal per year?

In any event, I’m deeply aware that the lack of information from Omega is by design to create just this very discussion and attention - so none of it is intended as complaint, but instead intrigue and obedient fan behavior. 👍

There are 48 steel examples, 3 platinum, and zero Canopus gold for sale right now on Chrono24, based on how many of each I’ve seen… id say 25-30 steel for every one one precious metal 321 would be about right at the moment in circulation.
 
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Of course, of course - though since Omega gives us enthusiasts so little actionable information, we’re left to our terot cards and reading the future in coffee grounds 😁

While I assume the same as you here, if playing the devil’s advocate:

(1) because margins are much higher in precious metals examples, if I’m Omega I’m going to fill every precious metal order before any stainless order, and

I think those numbers on the precious metal ones are completely different from the steel ones. And the production process is also slightly different, or perhaps not the production process, but the sourcing of parts. Cases and bracelets in steel come (most probably) from a different supplier than the ones in precious metal. All meant to say that producing one model or reference doesn't necessarily it will block the other. Anyway, I think/estimate the ones in precious metals are rather in the dozens per year than hundreds.

(2) if Omega annually only makes 1000 cal.321’s in a given year it doesn’t take many global precious metal sales to have a material impact on the “cake” - is Omega selling 100 or 500 of these precious metal per year?

I think ("guesstimate") it is closer to the 100 than to the 500 for the precious metal ones.

In any event, I’m deeply aware that the lack of information from Omega is by design to create just this very discussion and attention - so none of it is intended as complaint, but instead intrigue and obedient fan behavior. 👍

I understand, I also don't have the definitive answer and I wonder if there's a definitive answer. Omega doesn't communicate about production numbers, also not to journalists, but I also think they are not too occupied with these kinds of things when it comes to niche products. They just manufacture what they can fit into the production planning and fulfills the orders they have. Sometimes I get the feeling fans and enthusiasts are trying to "overthink" a lot of stuff that is going on or happening... Often in a fun way though 😁

RJ