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Video review of the new Speedmaster Calibre 321 in steel

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I like the watch he’s wearing at the beginning 😎

Broke my rule of not watching videos and nothing wrong with it. Very informative.

PS like the way you say Hue 😉 Mind you that’s coming from a Aussie ( Who are known to mince English at the best of times )
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Hi all,

We thought it would be nice to do a little hands-on video of my new Speedmaster Calibre 321 in steel. Here you go! Enjoy!


@Robert-Jan, Has Omega revealed how many watchmakers are making the new 321 movements and when they began their manufacturing process with the single watchmaker per watch technique? Surely they were shut down for some time due to COVID, but they are working again and the number of people involved and their production rate (perhaps one of the OF watchmakers could give us an estimate on that) would help members verify how many are being made a year, and that may in turn help members understand how long the wait may be for a preorder or new order to be delivered. Thanks for your great review!
 
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sometimes it amazes me how negative responses can be on something we did just for fun.

Thank you very much for this great video (and the cross-note that „some might be disappointed by the standard box“ 😉).

I guess these negative vibes are the consequence that you have to live with if you‘re in a close (business) relationship with a brand, as marketing is so influencer/ online-based nowadays. Difficult or even impossible to separate the content type outside-in.

But just don‘t forget that the majority of us appreciate the content that you and the team is creating - and that any direct or indirect „side benefit“ you receive are well deserved given the business you have built for yourself 👍.

On the watch: taking a step back I believe Omega did so much right about this. They kept the design simple and clean, so that this can live for a long time next to the 1861 (or soon 3861) as a standard model. I hope this understatement together with the steep price will keep it from becoming the next 15202 / 116500LN hyped watch that people want that have little knowledge about watches...
 
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“Average daily rate (over 3 positions only) must fall between 0 and +16 seconds per day,and the Delta at full wind is allowed to be 20 seconds, and 24 hours after full wind it can be 30 seconds...pretty loose tolerances for this.“

Just curious what to expect from a full service overhaul

It depends on who is doing the service. The specs are what Omega would give you as their minimum requirement, and in general most service centers don't carry on tweaking and adjusting once they have met the requirements. Once it falls in tolerances, it's done.

For me personally, I'm shooting for about 1/2 of Omega's tolerances on this movement, in particular for Delta (regulation is easy, it's the adjustment and getting the Deltas low that the real work) and I am doing the checks over 6 positions, rather than three. I don't always get there, but I would be pretty disappointed if I could not better Omega specs - they are typically just my starting point.
 
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Robert-Jan Robert-Jan
I know. I meant the negative response on a video, not on the product.

I see what you mean but that group of people will find a flaw in the video, your shoes, the lighting, the watch, your voice, the bracelet clasp or your fingernails; sadly, it is a condition or a syndrome going around some like-minded groups. Do what you, and your team, think is editorially best for FW and disregard the white noise that keeps you, and us watch lovers, unfocused from the ultimate goal of a fun and educational distraction from, among other regional concerns, a global pandemonium.
 
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Perhaps it feels like that, but Omega has and had no role in this video. I bought the watch on Tuesday and we shot the video on Friday without Omega knowing about this. It is my own watch and just gave some background info on it. I will put the watch on my Witschi later on and see how it performs.

sometimes it amazes me how negative responses can be on something we did just for fun.

I understand. My original comment sounded negative and critical - I deleted it. It was certainly not my intention.

Thank you for posting your review, it’s an amazing piece!
 
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I understand. My original comment sounded negative and critical - I deleted it. It was certainly not my intention.

Thank you for posting your review, it’s an amazing piece!

Contrition with class.
 
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I understand. My original comment sounded negative and critical - I deleted it. It was certainly not my intention.

Thank you for posting your review, it’s an amazing piece!

Thanks for explaining, much appreciated. Rest assured that I truly love Omega - aside from my profession at Fratello. The brand runs through my veins.
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😲😲😲 13,000 €? That's 20K CAD....::facepalm1::
 
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It’s $18,300 in Canada if that helps you.
Ok..so not fully converted. But still a steep hill for no doubt, a fantastic watch.
 
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Ok..so not fully converted. But still a steep hill for no doubt, a fantastic watch.
No doubt it's a fantastic watch, but at 3 times the price of a standard 1861 Pro? Yikes. This is simply Omega charging this much because they can, not because there is anything special (beyond some fancy marketing) about this watch vs. a standard moon watch that justifies the pricing.
 
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Enjoyed the video...very well done. Thanks 👍
 
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Good.

Any time you can post some timekeeping data, it would be appreciated.

Omega did finally update the work instruction with timekeeping tolerances, but the numbers haven't changed much. Average daily rate (over 3 positions only) must fall between 0 and +16 seconds per day, and the Delta at full wind is allowed to be 20 seconds, and 24 hours after full wind it can be 30 seconds...pretty loose tolerances for this.

I agree, but you might also remember that some timekeeping data were published in another thread with reference to the platinum version and the results were in line with Omega specs.

Archer Archer
It depends on who is doing the service. The specs are what Omega would give you as their minimum requirement, and in general most service centers don't carry on tweaking and adjusting once they have met the requirements. Once it falls in tolerances, it's done.

For me personally, I'm shooting for about 1/2 of Omega's tolerances on this movement, in particular for Delta (regulation is easy, it's the adjustment and getting the Deltas low that the real work) and I am doing the checks over 6 positions, rather than three. I don't always get there, but I would be pretty disappointed if I could not better Omega specs - they are typically just my starting point.

Again, I totally agree with you and I wonder why such an expensive timepiece does not seem to receive a fine tuning. However, I must also add that, unfortunately, I am not surprised.
 
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I agree, but you might also remember that some timekeeping data were published in another thread with reference to the platinum version and the results were in line with Omega specs.

Yep, just looking for alternate data points. But the fact that WI28 has been updated and the specs were not changed for the 321 in any real way, leads me to believe that they won't be making these run well as part of that single watchmaker system...
 
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When you think of it, the FOIS is also being produced at a rate of 1,000-2,000 a year. So nothing new on this front I believe...
 
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that single watchmaker system...
This is just marketing mumbo jumbo to help provide the aura of exclusivity to justify the price.
 
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speedytoronto speedytoronto
This is just marketing mumbo jumbo to help provide the aura of exclusivity to justify the price.

Really?!?!

😀
 
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