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Very confused newbie needs help identifying exactly what Constellation model I bought

  1. Noddyman May 16, 2019

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    Even before spotting the missing marker I wasn’t 100% convinced by the fonts. That along with the unusual dial colour (for non de Luxe model) makes me suspicious. It’s one of those you need to see up close with a loupe to make a better judgment. Just my opinion so take for what it’s worth, others may disagree!
     
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  2. Noddyman May 16, 2019

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    Have you checked with a loupe to see if the dot is actually there? It could be tucked away under the point of the arrowhead.
     
  3. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur May 16, 2019

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    I would call that type of dial a pie pan.
    And these are dome.
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  4. jh102 May 16, 2019

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    I did indeed and it’s not there at all. Do you suspect a counterfeit or ??? I’m not sure what to look for in the script. My neighbor would take it back in a second if It had a problem (well, we’re friends too) and he’s had it for 23 years before I bought it. Please give me your professional opinion.

    Thanks so much for all the help!
     
  5. Noddyman May 16, 2019

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    I am no professional that’s for sure, just an happy amateur who enjoys collecting these models. Some of the guys above (in particular @cristos71, @ConElPueblo and @hoipolloi) have forgotten more than I know about vintage Constellations. Maybe one of these guys will chime in!
    The missing dot is odd for sure and not something you would expect Omega QC to have missed back in the day.
    Judging by the good overall condition you would assume the dial to be original. It’s difficult to say for sure without seeing it in person. I would suggest finding a local watchmaker familiar with vintage Omega and ask for a second opinion. I am sure your neighbor would understand your concerns.
     
  6. aprax May 16, 2019

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    @jh102 can you please clarify whether your dial has a golden colour? Or is it silvered? You never said in your own words.

    The question is relevant because if the dial is gold, this combination of dial and case would be very unusual. And I am curious and want to learn... :) From your pics one would think that it's a gold dial. But pics are deceiving. To demonstrate that I'll post an auction photo. You would think that watch has a gold dial, but it's actually silver:

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    Btw, I am by no means an expert, but I wouldn't be too worried about the missing dot at 7. If it were a redial (which I don't believe it is), whoever made it would not have missed that dot, he's so good.
     
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  7. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur May 16, 2019

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    That dot might fall off during a lacquer cleaning process. I guess.
     
  8. jh102 May 16, 2019

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    Aprax,

    It is a gold / yellow color (don’t know if it’s real gold) but it sure is not anything near silvered or silver. By the way, thanks for posting that picture - that one sure is deceiving!
     
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  9. JwRosenthal May 16, 2019

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    I have a stunning waffle dial Seamaster that’s was cleaned prior to my purchase, All the lettering and minute marks remained but it lost the lume and the Swiss Made...it happens. Breathe on the dial
    Wrong and the appliqué will migrate back to Switzerland.
     
  10. jh102 May 16, 2019

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    Hi all,

    Would this band fit and is it correct?

    Thanks
     
  11. jh102 May 16, 2019

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  12. jh102 May 16, 2019

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    JwRosenthal,

    Thanks for your input. It’s nice to hear “it happens” sometimes...

    Have a great night!
     
  13. JimInOz Melbourne Australia May 16, 2019

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    Integrated bracelets like this were usually part of an original watch and would be sized by the seller on purchase. Unless you are very lucky it could be too short, or too long even with the three adjustments. It could be shortened but would add to the already eye watering cost.

    Save yourself a $1000 and get a couple of quality leather straps.
     
  14. jh102 May 16, 2019

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    JimInOz,

    Thanks for that! Any recommendations on nice leather straps for this?
     
  15. jh102 May 16, 2019

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    Also,

    To all of you folks asking about the band: here are the original pictures (uncropped) from the jewelers before the bracelet was removed. I forgot that I had cropped the images for this post. You can see a little bit more.
     
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  16. JwRosenthal May 16, 2019

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    A quality crocodile always looks good on a Connie. Make sure you stay with an 18mm lug size and take your pic. If you peruse gold Connie’s online you will see every color and texture imaginable-whatever suits your taste that week- that is the fun part. Can never have too many straps
    A good place to start your shopping.
    https://holbensfinewatchbands.com/
     
  17. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus May 16, 2019

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    I think "SC" means seconde centre -seconds hand in the middle of the dial, instead of a sub-dial.
     
  18. Observer I know nothing! May 16, 2019

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    Beautiful watch. Does it matter that the star doesn't seem to be centered on the crosshair?
     
  19. Edward53 May 17, 2019

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    I think the whole thing is fine. I suppose it is just possible that the dial might for some reason have become sufficiently damaged to need redoing despite the exceptional condition of everything else, but that seems unlikely. Many gold watch owners reserved them for special occasions and took particular care of them because of their high value, which I think is what's happened here. All is "of a piece" and IMO untouched. A stunning purchase.

    The argument "pie pan or not pie pan" has been aired on here more than once. Who gives a damn when a watch is as nice as this one.
     
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  20. Walrus May 17, 2019

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    Well said