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Very confused newbie needs help identifying exactly what Constellation model I bought

  1. jh102

    jh102 May 16, 2019

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    Hello all,

    I just bought this watch a few days ago from a neighbor (less the band - it was aftermarket anyway).

    I am utterly confused if this is a pie pan or not. This dial, to me is circular in shape and not the hexagonal type that I think is "pie-pan" (if I'm saying that right). Also, I'm not sure if it's a deluxe etc. I have looked at the crystal and it has an Omega symbol etched very small and only seen at certain angles. From what I found already it is a 2782 with an SC after. I can find a lot about 2782 but not much on a 14k gold (not capped or filled) case. Most are 14k and stainless or 18k solid. I don't understand what the SC means and actually don't get all the reference stuff but am very interested in the exact specifications of my watch because I love all those details. Also, It looks so good I'm assuming it's not original which is fine because I plan on wearing this daily. It runs great!

    Any help is much appreciated:)

    Thanks SO MUCH!

    Also, any suggestions on a band that would be period original to this watch? Could be gold or leather, but Omega would be the only way I'd go unless it looked amazing.
     
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  2. JimInOz

    JimInOz "Helpful Hints from Heloise" of bracelet cleaning. May 16, 2019

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    Pie pans (the real ones) are generally circular.

    Some years ago, the appellation "pie pan" was ascribed to the dodecagonal shaped dials on Omega Constellations.

    Some purists consider anything other than the 12 sectored dial not a pie pan. However, the dome dial (which yours is IMO) can quite correctly be considered a pie pan.

    As to the remainder of your questions, I'm not well qualified to answer, but others surely will.
     
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  3. cristos71

    cristos71 May 16, 2019

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    Nice watch!, It isn't a pie-pan but a very attractive flat dome dial with arrowhead markers. Also it isn't a Deluxe, the 2782 is not a Deluxe reference, so your dial isn't solid gold, As to the colour of your dial, it has a very even golden colour to it, but I'm not sure whether it would have started life that way. Either way a beautiful watch-enjoy :)
     
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  4. jh102

    jh102 May 16, 2019

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    Thanks JimInOz and cristos71.

    I love that, a "flat dome"!
     
  5. padders

    padders May 16, 2019

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    As noted above, IMO not a pie pan as there isn't an actual stepped plane change at the rim, its more an optical effect generated by the outer darker ring and a slight doming. Omega and many others use this trick on a few references. Here is a 1950s gold Geneve with a similar effect:

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. jh102

    jh102 May 16, 2019

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    Thanks padders!

    So it's NOT a pie pan because there is no plane change, correct? This is what I was thinking, but not in those words.
     
  7. jh102

    jh102 May 16, 2019

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    Would it just be referenced to as a "dome dial" as mentioned by JimInOz and cristos71?
     
  8. padders

    padders May 16, 2019

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    That is my thinking. I have to say though that your watch is in amazingly good condition. I am not qualified to say if the dial is fully original but if it is you scored very well indeed there.

    SC on the reference just means centre second. Many watches of the era had sub second dials like mine above. Oh and the 4 in the Geneva key hallmark means you case was made by Antoine Gerlach SA, if that helps at all. Omega farmed out case manufacture during this period to various outside companies, including occasionally Patek Philippe.
     
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  9. jh102

    jh102 May 16, 2019

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    padders,

    That would just be dumb luck if it was an original because it seems way too nice. It looks really beautiful in my eyes, and I'm more concerned about knowing what it's condition / originality is for myself as opposed to monetary value. Also, for those interested, I paid $1600 for the watch (band was not included) because I didn't really care for it having no markings except 750.
     
  10. jh102

    jh102 May 16, 2019

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    And thanks again for your input padders!
     
  11. padders

    padders May 16, 2019

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    It was cheap for a gold Connie in that condition IMO.

    I am hoping that was a typo and you meant a 585 marking rather than 750? The caseback clearly shows solid 585/14K so if the lug marks don't match or you see 750 somewhere on it you may have an issue. Looks like the squirrel is the Swiss 14K symbol so that may be on the lugs.
     
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  12. bags1971

    bags1971 May 16, 2019

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    isn't the dial solid gold as well?
     
  13. ConElPueblo

    ConElPueblo May 16, 2019

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    Yep, there is a squirrel on the lugs :thumbsup:

    $1600 is an excellent purchase price - congrats on a great buy, @jh102!
     
  14. padders

    padders May 16, 2019

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    Ah I read that wrong above. You mean you didn’t care for the 18k watch band which you therefore didn’t buy. I understand now.
     
  15. Passover

    Passover May 16, 2019

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    Crossed T-Bars in "Constellation" on early references :)
     
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  16. Noddyman

    Noddyman May 16, 2019

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    Missing dot at 7 o'clock marker?
     
  17. jh102

    jh102 May 16, 2019

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    Great eye Noddyman!

    What does that mean? I see what you’re referencing but have no idea (except refinished?) as to why it wouldn’t be there...
     
  18. jh102

    jh102 May 16, 2019

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    Passover, can you please explain in layman’s terms?
     
  19. Passover

    Passover May 16, 2019

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    The later ones have Ts like that, not crossing the vertical line of the T, see what I mean:

    [​IMG]
     
  20. jh102

    jh102 May 16, 2019

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    Passover,

    Thanks very much for clarification on that. That is quite interesting:)