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SpeedyPhill
·Americans, ready to move Your clocks ... forward
Or DST - Daylight Saving Time as they call it 😁
Or DST - Daylight Saving Time as they call it 😁
US going for permanent " Summer Time " ... 2023
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ChiefMark
·But... we already did. We went forward Sunday morning, March 13 at 0200.
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pdxleaf
·Americans, ready to move Your clocks ... forward
Or DST - Daylight Saving Time as they call it 😁
Please, please, please pass the law, House!
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorI couldn’t agree less.
Not that I don’t favor not switching the clocks twice a year. I’d rather see us stay on Standard Time all year long. Not a big fan of waking up in the dark half the year.
gatorcpa
Not that I don’t favor not switching the clocks twice a year. I’d rather see us stay on Standard Time all year long. Not a big fan of waking up in the dark half the year.
gatorcpa
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ChiefMark
·I couldn’t agree less.
Not that I don’t favor not switching the clocks twice a year. I’d rather see us stay on Standard Time all year long. Not a big fan of waking up in the dark half the year.
gatorcpa
I don't care which one we stay on. I've even suggested a compromise where instead of going forward or back one hour, we end this nonsense by doing a 30 minute change one last time and call it quits. Everyone is happy.
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MoclovFlop
·I Never thought of this.... that seems so logical.
But then I guess we'd be the odd balls with our times being "GMT+6.5" or whatever.
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Evitzee
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Christ, no, don't do anything so foolish as splitting the difference and making it a 30 min change and putting the world's biggest economy out of sync with the rest of the world. Pick one or the other, but not a 30 min adjustment, there is no rational argument for that.
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Togri v. 2.0
··Wow! Custom title... coolWhy not just make it Saturday at 11:00 am all the time? Always a whole weekend in front of you and you just ate a nice breakfast
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ChiefMark
·The world survives with Newfoundland having a 1/2 hour time zone. 😜
Seriously though, it's a suggestion meant to demonstrate that as long we pick a time and stick with it, I don't care.
@Togri v. 2.0 has the best suggestion. I love it. I eat a little earlier and would prefer more of my weekend ahead of me, but since the time will always be 11:00 am on Saturday, I guess it doesn't matter.
Seriously though, it's a suggestion meant to demonstrate that as long we pick a time and stick with it, I don't care.
@Togri v. 2.0 has the best suggestion. I love it. I eat a little earlier and would prefer more of my weekend ahead of me, but since the time will always be 11:00 am on Saturday, I guess it doesn't matter.
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentThe thought of it not getting light until after 9:00 am on weekday mornings really stinks. It's hard enough getting my kid to fully wake up and get ready for school as it is.
construction workers are going to be hatin' it as well.
construction workers are going to be hatin' it as well.
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.Was in HS in 1973. DLST gave us the opportunity to get to the ski slopes on the daylight for night skiing. It was great!
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Waltesefalcon
·I abhor DST, I think that is the dumbest thing. You don't actually get a longer day out of it, we are all just conditioned to get up an hour earlier becauseof it. I'd much prefer being on regular time all year round.
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ChiefMark
·You know what I find the oddest about it all? That we call the “time” we are on for 8 months (2/3) of the year “Daylight Savings Time” and the 4 months or 1/3 of the year is “Standard Time.”
Seriously, shouldn’t the majority of the year be “Standard” and the smaller portion have some other name?
Alternatively we just dump this nonsense in the dustbin. We are very much in the minority globally. Most of the world is getting along fine without it.
Seriously, shouldn’t the majority of the year be “Standard” and the smaller portion have some other name?
Alternatively we just dump this nonsense in the dustbin. We are very much in the minority globally. Most of the world is getting along fine without it.
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arturo7
·Why not just make it Saturday at 11:00 am all the time? Always a whole weekend in front of you and you just ate a nice breakfast
How about Saturday at 8:00 AM?
That way we get to eat the nice breakfast.
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SkunkPrince
·The more north you get the more you get the day/night thing. I'm 43° north latitude in Milwaukee WI. Not the most north in the US, but getting there.
Latest sunrise for me is 7:21am standard, so 8:21am daylight, on January 2. Earliest sunset is December 8, 4:18pm standard, 5:18pm daylight.
Most people are getting up in the dark then, regardless.
Earliest sunrise June 14, 5:10am daylight, 4:10am standard. Latest sunset June 27, 8:36pm daylight, 7:36 standard.
Most people are getting up long after the sun comes up, regardless.
At equinox, 7am to 7pm. I think that's dayligiht, now, for each.
The fact of the matter is, a lot of people are living their life in the dark at some point. You can see why they adjusted it. But no matter what you do, someone's going to hate it.
Me, I'm now permanent work from home, and all the sun means to me is when I turn the lights on or off.
Latest sunrise for me is 7:21am standard, so 8:21am daylight, on January 2. Earliest sunset is December 8, 4:18pm standard, 5:18pm daylight.
Most people are getting up in the dark then, regardless.
Earliest sunrise June 14, 5:10am daylight, 4:10am standard. Latest sunset June 27, 8:36pm daylight, 7:36 standard.
Most people are getting up long after the sun comes up, regardless.
At equinox, 7am to 7pm. I think that's dayligiht, now, for each.
The fact of the matter is, a lot of people are living their life in the dark at some point. You can see why they adjusted it. But no matter what you do, someone's going to hate it.
Me, I'm now permanent work from home, and all the sun means to me is when I turn the lights on or off.
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kkt
·We tried this in 1974. The experiment was a failure, hated by almost everyone and repealed promptly when Congress was back in session. Too bad the Senate thinks we need to try it again.
DST in winter is a nonstarter. People need the sun to start to wake up and to set their biological clock each day. Some time with the sun up before the commute starts lets the ice, snow, and frost start to soften. Therefore standard time in winter is strongly preferred.
In summer, standard time here would mean dawn at 3:30 AM or so. That would be awful. Wake up for any reason at 4:00 and it's very difficult to get back to sleep with the sun up. Much better to have the long light evenings where it gets dark at 10 PM. So DST in summer is strongly preferred.
The change is only 5 minutes. If it's hard to adjust, go to bed early a couple of nights before and get outside for some light in the morning.
Getting up when it gets light in the morning is what daytime active animals do. Listen to the birds singing at dawn. The change from standard time to DST and back approximates that.
DST in winter is a nonstarter. People need the sun to start to wake up and to set their biological clock each day. Some time with the sun up before the commute starts lets the ice, snow, and frost start to soften. Therefore standard time in winter is strongly preferred.
In summer, standard time here would mean dawn at 3:30 AM or so. That would be awful. Wake up for any reason at 4:00 and it's very difficult to get back to sleep with the sun up. Much better to have the long light evenings where it gets dark at 10 PM. So DST in summer is strongly preferred.
The change is only 5 minutes. If it's hard to adjust, go to bed early a couple of nights before and get outside for some light in the morning.
Getting up when it gets light in the morning is what daytime active animals do. Listen to the birds singing at dawn. The change from standard time to DST and back approximates that.
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gostang9
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DST in winter is a nonstarter. People need the sun to start to wake up and to set their biological clock each day. Some time with the sun up before the commute starts lets the ice, snow, and frost start to soften. Therefore standard time in winter is strongly preferred.
In summer, standard time here would mean dawn at 3:30 AM or so. That would be awful. Wake up for any reason at 4:00 and it's very difficult to get back to sleep with the sun up. Much better to have the long light evenings where it gets dark at 10 PM. So DST in summer is strongly preferred.
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Getting up when it gets light in the morning is what daytime active animals do. Listen to the birds singing at dawn. The change from standard time to DST and back approximates that.
For me, it helps to see visually what it means. I live 10 minutes across the border from Detroit Michigan (South of, interestingly).
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ChiefMark
·So... what? On the shortest day of the year in a hypothetical permanent DST the sun would rise around 0900 and set around 1800. It's Winter. Days are short. I think we're all aware of that. The further north (or south in the other hemisphere) you choose to live, the greater the disparity between day length in the seasons, and the colder it gets in the Winter. It seems arbitrary to me to get hung up on when the sun rises, so wanting to force a clock change for everyone. Somewhere out there there are as many people more concerned with the sunset. When you grab a morning hour of daylight you lose an afternoon hour of daylight. Nothing about how much sun is available to you in the winter is helped by the shift.
And where on earth does kkt live, because from Winnipeg to Miami I couldn't find a latitude where the sun would rise at 3:30 - or anywhere near that - on Standard or Daylight time at any point in the year. Now, in Alaska or Nunavut it's easy to find such places, but it's also where the sun stays up all day for a bit and never rises for a bit. The northernmost point in the contiguous United States would have a standard time sunrise of 4:13 AM on the earliest sunrise of the year, or 5:13 AM in a hypothetical permanent DST.
And where on earth does kkt live, because from Winnipeg to Miami I couldn't find a latitude where the sun would rise at 3:30 - or anywhere near that - on Standard or Daylight time at any point in the year. Now, in Alaska or Nunavut it's easy to find such places, but it's also where the sun stays up all day for a bit and never rises for a bit. The northernmost point in the contiguous United States would have a standard time sunrise of 4:13 AM on the earliest sunrise of the year, or 5:13 AM in a hypothetical permanent DST.
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bombaywalla
·yeah, I agree-- pick 1 time -- daylight savings or winter time & stick with it all year.
no 30 minute shift please.
that's what i deal with everyday with India time -- i personally have gotten used to it but it is an annoyance.....
no 30 minute shift please.
that's what i deal with everyday with India time -- i personally have gotten used to it but it is an annoyance.....
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