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leefowler
·Looks like a Mk5a to me.
Urgent Help with GMT 1675
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swaini3
·I would check that bracelet. Scrolls dont look right. Price is not bad imo. It can be refinished to look great or worn as is.
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cvalue13
·What is “too much” these days seems fleeting, except perhaps to only the most plugged in.
Great examples of this model watch seem to the uninitiated to be flying around for 3X the price or more.
I’m with the others that say get the watch well serviced, put it on an awesome strap, and strut that some-bitch through thick and thin 👍
Great examples of this model watch seem to the uninitiated to be flying around for 3X the price or more.
I’m with the others that say get the watch well serviced, put it on an awesome strap, and strut that some-bitch through thick and thin 👍
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Fedoclock
·What is “too much” these days seems fleeting, except perhaps to only the most plugged in.
Great examples of this model watch seem to the uninitiated to be flying around for 3X the price or more.
I’m with the others that say get the watch well serviced, put it on an awesome strap, and strut that some-bitch through thick and thin 👍
Case and bezel are over polished and can be seen by these pics. Insert is poor. Dial has to be checked that has not been relumed as well the hands set. Crown is missin. Last but not least I would check the bracelet carefully...
Also an higher price would be fine if you don't care about conditions. But if you care about conditions then the price is too high because even lower price would be too much.
Always depends on how important conditions are.
If you touch the case you will always note that the case has been fixed.
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cvalue13
·Case and bezel are over polished and can be seen by these pics. Insert is poor. Dial has to be checked that has not been relumed as well the hands set. Crown is missin. Last but not least I would check the bracelet carefully...
Also an higher price would be fine if you don't care about conditions. But if you care about conditions then the price is too high because even lower price would be too much.
Always depends on how important conditions are.
If you touch the case you will always note that the case has been fixed.
And since the watch has already been purchased, you’re being helpful and tactful how, exactly?
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Fedoclock
·And since the watch has already been purchased, you’re being helpful and tactful how, exactly?
I apologize if I have been to direct. My intention was not to disparge qbert1964. So I regret if you understood so.
That said I prefer to be fair and honest in offering my personal opinion. The watch is legit, but conditions matter and the price reflects poor conditions of this watch. On top of this I would take a deeper look at the bracelet.
Hope qbert1964 understands and if I hurt him I apologize. On the other hand I still be at his disposal for any further help.
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Traveler
·I apologize if I have been to direct. My intention was not to disparge qbert1964. So I regret if you understood so.
That said I prefer to be fair and honest in offering my personal opinion. The watch is legit, but conditions matter and the price reflects poor conditions of this watch. On top of this I would take a deeper look at the bracelet.
Hope qbert1964 understands and if I hurt him I apologize. On the other hand I still be at his disposal for any further help.
I don’t think you need to apologize - OP came here looking for advice, and pulled the trigger before getting it. I don’t get the impression they are being sensitive about this, so not sure why @cvalue13 is all up in arms about it. But, if you can’t handle honest comment on a significant purchase such as this, don’t bother asking. Stay in the dark and waste your money how you like, it’s no skin off our noses….
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cvalue13
·
I think you are missing that I offered my own answer to the OP directly, then @Fedoclock decided to @ me as though correcting mine own ignorance to which I was responding…
Worth clarifying, too, that @Fedoclock has already doubly offered his “opinion” to OP, and in addressing me also in redundancy appeared to be nothing more than piling on.
I’m not “up in arms” about anything.
Instead, it’s that the emotional intelligence of seasoned collectors can be a bit low when addressing brand-newbies. Not the least of examples is feeling compelled to “correct” or “tell it like it is” even to other people providing a different type of encouragement.
Up in arms indeed.
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.@cvalue13, there has been discussion here in the past on how to best critique a purchased watch that a new collector posts. The conclusion was light touch, teachable moment either on the thread or PM. Sometimes however, the comments are unfortunately blunt. Sometimes the critiques are civil, but the OP response is not
First watch I posted here in my noob days, I was immediately told it was a redial. That comment was quickly refuted by other members much to my relief. ( what it had was a factory service dial which later communal research here on OF identified).
The second watch I posted, ugh, eviscerated. Eventually on that thread and by pm it was an ugly duckling with swan potential to some collectors, and I actually did well for what I paid. Both are still favorites in my collection. I have elected not to spend the latter watch into a swan as I like it’s imperfections.
I learned to do my homework, ask informed questions here, publicly and privately before pulling the trigger if I have doubts. Bought some key books. Have I still tossed the dice into the fog on occasion? Yup.
@qbert1964 … get that GMT running and enjoy. It will clean up nicely.
First watch I posted here in my noob days, I was immediately told it was a redial. That comment was quickly refuted by other members much to my relief. ( what it had was a factory service dial which later communal research here on OF identified).
The second watch I posted, ugh, eviscerated. Eventually on that thread and by pm it was an ugly duckling with swan potential to some collectors, and I actually did well for what I paid. Both are still favorites in my collection. I have elected not to spend the latter watch into a swan as I like it’s imperfections.
I learned to do my homework, ask informed questions here, publicly and privately before pulling the trigger if I have doubts. Bought some key books. Have I still tossed the dice into the fog on occasion? Yup.
@qbert1964 … get that GMT running and enjoy. It will clean up nicely.
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cvalue13
·The second watch I posted, ugh, eviscerated.
Be the change you want to see, is the trope.
Here’s the funny thing about the expertise experience:
Among the first watches I purchased, before I had a “museum curator” bone in my body, I purchased because I liked the way it looked and would love to wear it.
Here on the forum, I was told I overpaid, it’s various deficiencies recounted at length, the usual. I hold no grudges at that because three reasons:
First, experiential learning is the best learning.
Second, I had purchased because I liked the watch and wanted to wear it, which was in retrospect wholly separate from its “museum curator” qualifications.
Third: now 8-9 years later, that imperfect watch is still with me because I liked it and wanted to wear it, and is now incidentally “worth” 2 to 3 times what I paid for it.
Which three reasons taken together go to show that there are many benefits to liking watches, not all of them myopic, and even the “experts” should remember they spend half their time discussing what they didn’t get right all along.
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Fedoclock
·I thought I replied to the OP sorry that is my mistake.
Also I want to say I have checked today with more time the dial and it does not look relumed so if I have to bet 1 cent I would say ia not which is an important point.
Insert is poor but is ok which is also a good point.
I am not sure about the bracelet but in any case is not a big deal to find a good one. You are fine with the end links.
If you accept my opinion I would not touch the case which is the biggest issue. Keep it like this and join the watch I might be too rude in exposing my thoughts.
Just wanted to clarify sorry if I made a mess
Also I want to say I have checked today with more time the dial and it does not look relumed so if I have to bet 1 cent I would say ia not which is an important point.
Insert is poor but is ok which is also a good point.
I am not sure about the bracelet but in any case is not a big deal to find a good one. You are fine with the end links.
If you accept my opinion I would not touch the case which is the biggest issue. Keep it like this and join the watch I might be too rude in exposing my thoughts.
Just wanted to clarify sorry if I made a mess
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·Like I said, watch has issues....you get what you pay for, right? It's a good entry for a GMT 1675, but recognize the shortcomings as well.
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t_swiss_t
·Disagree with some of the opinions on the case stated above. The case has typical "sleeve polish," were you see wearing off of the brushed finish in areas exposed to wear and tear, but retained chamfers and crisp lug holes (which are also far from the chamfers) as well as some evidence of brushing is areas closer to the case (like you can see on the top surface of the crown guards and at the top of the 10 o'clock lug as it meets the case). See a nice discussion of sleeve polish here. Might it have been polished a touch? Sure, maybe with a jeweler’s cloth, but the case is still better than 95% of 1675 cases out there. Many of the late 70's cases didn't have much of a chamfer by the crown guards so not sure why people think its been polished to hell. But definitely a nice case for me.
It also has the original bezel with the deep grooves and the lume on the dial seems unblemished. Easily worth what its being sold for and more.
Just needs a fresher insert.
(haven't looked at the bracelet closely so won't comment on that)
It also has the original bezel with the deep grooves and the lume on the dial seems unblemished. Easily worth what its being sold for and more.
Just needs a fresher insert.
(haven't looked at the bracelet closely so won't comment on that)
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southtexas
·Disagree with some of the opinions on the case stated above. The case has typical "sleeve polish," were you see wearing off of the brushed finish in areas exposed to wear and tear, but retained chamfers and crisp lug holes (which are also far from the chamfers) as well as some evidence of brushing is areas closer to the case (like you can see on the top surface of the crown guards and at the top of the 10 o'clock lug as it meets the case). See a nice discussion of sleeve polish here. Might it have been polished a touch? Sure, maybe with a jeweler’s cloth, but the case is still better than 95% of 1675 cases out there. Many of the late 70's cases didn't have much of a chamfer by the crown guards so not sure why people think its been polished to hell. But definitely a nice case for me.
It also has the original bezel with the deep grooves and the lume on the dial seems unblemished. Easily worth what its being sold for and more.
Just needs a fresher insert.
(haven't looked at the bracelet closely so won't comment on that)
this. The watch is a great buy at $8,200. I think bracelet is real, but not correct (doesn’t have “50” stamp). I’d bet that watch has not seen a polishing wheel. The crown is $50. Original crystal is $200. Service is $500. He has a $13,000 Watch for $8,950. Well done.
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JwRosenthal
·Yeah, I’m not showing my well loved and previously polished 16750, that I have owned for 20 years here anymore- I’ll get eviscerated!
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993watch
·Where are the pics from OP on 1675 in question?
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JwRosenthal
·Looks like he deleted them. Not great forum form. Good thing I saved some of them down.
