Untouched Black Dial Pie Pan?

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·Jul 13, 2022

Hi everyone. Hoping for some insight here.

The seller has indicated the the dial is unrestored/unrepainted. I think it's alright, but the minute markers throw me off a little.

The movement looks good. I think the case isn't too overpolished (not the best judge of that)?

Let me know what you guys think, I'm always bad at telling whether a black dial is legit.

 

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tamura

·Jul 13, 2022

Swiss made T and no lume hands? 😵‍💫

 

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·Jul 13, 2022

tamura

Swiss made T and no lume hands? 😵‍💫

I guess the hands are replaced?

 

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Peemacgee

·Jul 13, 2022

The hands are definitely wrong as they are all too long ( and no lume)
The indices have notches for lume, so the T dial is okay as far as that goes. However, you need crystal clear, straight on images to assess a dial and that goes double for a black dial.
( it also helps if you load the pics so that they can be expanded by clicking on them)

 

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MtV

·Jul 13, 2022

Hands and crown are incorrect, case still shows the dogleg form but has definitely been polished significantly. Dial can only be assessed with better pictures, as stated above. But with the issues that are present this would have to be cheap to be a good buy, in my opinion, and somehow the pictures give me the impression it won’t be.

Edited: Jul 13, 2022

 

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ConElPueblo

·Jul 13, 2022

As mentioned, wrong hands and crown. It is difficult to assess the dial properly with those pictures, but at the very least it looks like it had been relumed.

 

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kaplan

·Jul 13, 2022

Sad how watches get mistreated and destroyed by these people for little profit, please don't buy the watch OP to not support these practices

I suspect this watch originally had some scratches and possibly a bit rusting on the hands, and this guy thought making it shiny would be a good idea

If the dial isn't relumed, I guess it's worth $1600? You'll have a lot of headaches trying to replace the parts, so it's like a $2400 project at the original estimated price

 

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MtV

·Jul 13, 2022

If the dial is original, in great condition and not relumed - and that's a big if - then I'd still consider 1600USD to be pretty expensive. Calculate roughly 100$ for the crown, 600$ for a good replacement case, maybe 100$ for a handset? Yes, it'd add up to a ~2400$ investment, which is quite high but not completely unreasonable for a black, pie pan dial 167.005. But the way there will be a long one. The crown is relatively easy to source, but a sharp case and a nice set of hands? That'll take a lot of patience, quite possibly years. A bit less if you can live with a 168.005 caseback, as these are much more common.

 

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Peemacgee

·Jul 13, 2022

I think you must be dreaming of a different watch 😁 (and who wouldn’t want a legit black pie pan dial 167.005?)

The OPs watch is a 168.005

 

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MtV

·Jul 13, 2022

Peemacgee

I think you must be dreaming of a different watch ( and who wouldn’t want a legit black pie pan dial 167.005?)

The OPs watch is a 168.005

Indeed - must've been wishful thinking. Thanks for calling me out, in that case reduce my estimated by maybe 300$ or so.

 

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MSNWatch

·Jul 13, 2022·Vintage Omega Aficionado

From the suboptimal photos taken the dial looks original. This looks to me like a watch built around a found spare dial.

 

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ALEJANDRO BOVONE

·Jul 13, 2022

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Hi everyone. Hoping for some insight here.

The seller has indicated the the dial is unrestored/unrepainted. I think it's alright, but the minute markers throw me off a little.

The movement looks good. I think the case isn't too overpolished (not the best judge of that)?

Let me know what you guys think, I'm always bad at telling whether a black dial is legit.

crispness of the movement is coherent with condition of the dial. impossible to tell from those pics but this is just an observation.