Universal Geneve Watches On Ebay

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looks like redial, and the small second hand and the dial definitely not match.
With the exception of the movement I struggle to find anything that originated in the UG factory.
 
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They are $$$, along with the Eric Clapton. They are pretty unique complications and utterly beautiful. My full set went for well over that in 2019 to an american collector! It is a pivotal vintage. A true classic !

I am still haunted by the watches you brought to lunch when we met in London. They were amazing. I still can’t believe I never pursued one of these. Not gonna happen now.
 
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I am still haunted by the watches you brought to lunch when we met in London. They were amazing. I still can’t believe I never pursued one of these. Not gonna happen now.
Let me know when you are back in Town. Plenty more to see ... 😉
 
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I really like that watch. If I were buying, I'd ask for 1 more picture with the hour hand in a different place. Movement does look a tad bit tired, but hey, it was worn.
 
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very nice dial, calendar red hand not original but similar enough. movement parts seems come from multiple movements, can see different aging condition, but not affect much on the value. for me i would pay 6-7k usd.
 
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Wonderful piece
 
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very nice dial, calendar red hand not original but similar enough. movement parts seems come from multiple movements, can see different aging condition, but not affect much on the value. for me i would pay 6-7k usd.
I see the different aging on the different parts in the movement…can you share a bit more on your pricing estimate. I see others that look the same or a bit more distressed for 10-13k.
 
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very nice dial, calendar red hand not original but similar enough. movement parts seems come from multiple movements, can see different aging condition, but not affect much on the value. for me i would pay 6-7k usd.
why do you feel the red date hand is wrong? I can't spot an immediate issue. I agree I would not purchase this watch at the asking price, but I doubt you would find it in the normal retail channels anywhere close to 6-7K USD. You could have to get lucky and come across a private sale or something like that I guess.
 
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why do you feel the red date hand is wrong? I can't spot an immediate issue. I agree I would not purchase this watch at the asking price, but I doubt you would find it in the normal retail channels anywhere close to 6-7K USD. You could have to get lucky and come across a private sale or something like that I guess.
hmmmm, i just bid a tri-compax at 7k usd (include buyer's premium) in bonhams auction in march......its not a private sale, and the movement and dial condition is much better. u can say i am lucky, i think i should admit that.

about the red hand. because the watch i bid also have a wrong calendar hand, so i do some search on it. OP the red hand expose a gold color base. i think it suppose to be stainless steel color base, align with the other 3 small hands. there is no point to do a gold coating on the hand which will apply paint in the end. the gold base usually appear on modern watch, i suspect it is from some brand like Excelsior Park, but its similar enough.

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I see the different aging on the different parts in the movement…can you share a bit more on your pricing estimate. I see others that look the same or a bit more distressed for 10-13k.
there are some database website collectiong price for auctions and ebay and some other dealer's website
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is this a redial? Post does say that hands may have been re-lumed.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3264207081...7QFBQ5&hash=item4c0030bb5e:g:HHkAAOSwv6lnmCPQ

lumed hand will never come with not lumed dial. definitely not match.
for dial itself, the numbers style looks correct. but i personally never see the logo location at 12 o'clock subdial. maybe rare design? need some expert.
btw, the calendar leaf shape hand also not original. tri-compax very easy missing this hands, don't know why
 
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hmmmm, i just bid a tri-compax at 7k usd (include buyer's premium) in bonhams auction in march......its not a private sale, and the movement and dial condition is much better. u can say i am lucky, i think i should admit that.

about the red hand. because the watch i bid also have a wrong calendar hand, so i do some search on it. OP the red hand expose a gold color base. i think it suppose to be stainless steel color base, align with the other 3 small hands. there is no point to do a gold coating on the hand which will apply paint in the end. the gold base usually appear on modern watch, i suspect it is from some brand like Excelsior Park, but its similar enough.
Beautiful Tri, congrats !
You cannot compare prices on 22283 and 222100/X Tri Compax......apples and oranges. Waterproof (round pusher) Tri will almost always be more expensive, all other things being equal.
Red hand, very common for the paint to flake off, I cannot tell base color of metal from auction photos.
My 222100/1 below, you can see the missing paint...

 
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Beautiful Tri, congrats !
You cannot compare prices on 22283 and 222100/X Tri Compax......apples and oranges. Waterproof (round pusher) Tri will almost always be more expensive, all other things being equal.
Red hand, very common for the paint to flake off, I cannot tell base color of metal from auction photos.
My 222100/1 below, you can see the missing paint...

nice example!

i agree that 22283 and 222100 have different market price. but for me, an older model normally is more hard to keep in good condition. its just my personal opinion, thats why i said "i would pay 6-7k" instead of "you should pay only 6-7k".

about the red flaked hand. yes flaked paint is normal, i also see on my collections. but problem is the base color of metal should not be gold. the purpose of gold plating or painting is same ---- to prevent corrosion and make it looks good. no point to waste money to apply both of them together. the hands looks like from some other gold capped watch like excelsior park, zenith, ect, and repaint by watchmaker. i have that kind of hands also.

but, in general, as i said, the hand is similar enough. no need to care too much on it. unless u are a bit OCD like me😉

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