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··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerNever seen before. At first glance a UG but actually a Mulco: https://www.antiquewatch-carese.com/mens-watch/OTHER/mo1776.html
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··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerInteresting time only. Serial 53x.xxx so 1930's. Very interesting hands. https://bid.nomisma-aste.it/en/lot/11296/universal-geneve-cal-a-carica-automatica-/
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··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerInteresting one. Ref 289. Seems to be legit but contains obvious flaw
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banders
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I noticed that
1) There is no circle around the days on the moonphase subdial
2) The minutes subdial counts by 5s instead of 3s (5,10,15,20,25,30 instead of 3,6,9,12,15...30)
I am not sure whether either of these things indicate that the dial is definitely not original. However, it seems like most of the 'original' 40s dials I've seen do not have 1) or 2)
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bgrisso
·Does anyone have thoughts on whether this is the original dial?
I noticed that
1) There is no circle around the days on the moonphase subdial
2) The minutes subdial counts by 5s instead of 3s (5,10,15,20,25,30 instead of 3,6,9,12,15...30)
I am not sure whether either of these things indicate that the dial is definitely not original. However, it seems like most of the 'original' 40s dials I've seen do not have 1) or 2)
it's an original dial. whether it started life in that case would require more brain cells than I can muster at the moment. you could start by documenting every 12553 you can find. It is worth noting that many of the archives pics for 122XX and 125XX have 3/6/9, but a fair number of them have 5/10/15, however we cannot date the archives pics without case serial, so we don't know what year they are from.
offhand, just on first impressions, this watch was not ringing alarm bells IMO
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··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerWeird 31207 because no serial.... https://www.chrono24.nl/universalgenve/universal-geneve-orologio-vintage-anni-50--id30169997.htm
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··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerThis jumbo 224105 sold for (only) USD 2025! Soft market, exotic location of the seller or just a poor dial? https://www.ebay.nl/itm/276001521528
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bgrisso
·All of the above, but mostly poor condition
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··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerAlready sold but too interesting not to post: https://mentawatches.com/product/universal-geneve-compur-2/ (remarkable: https://www.invaluable.com/auction-...ined&queryID=32e0f1a626d238934ded808198961df4 but this is definitely another watch)
The dial is a very nice mix between #5 & #9
The dial is a very nice mix between #5 & #9
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerAnother beauty from Menta: https://mentawatches.com/product/berthoud-geneve-gilt-breguet-numerals-chronograph/ Ref 5182.
Basically the black version of this one:
Found another one:
Basically the black version of this one:
Found another one:
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Perrier
·What a fabulous watch.
I would assume servicing this is a nightmare?
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··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerWell not a watch which I would give to a random watchmaker but a competent one could service this for under USD 1000
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bgrisso
·looks to be the last 3 digits of the case serial. I wonder why?
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··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerHappens more often:
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··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerSold long ago but still very interesting. Ref 12464
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jumpingsecond
·looks to be the last 3 digits of the case serial. I wonder why?
Omega did that too on some models from 30s and 40s I think its simply for the casemaker to match case + caseback in the factory but some1 correct me if Im wrong..
