Universal Geneve Watches On Ebay

Oku · Sep 26, 2022

Mark020
Valid point but the only 201.4xx movement I have on record is a 12258. Perhaps the orginal pushers were gold as well.

and the crown?

Mark020 · Sep 26, 2022

You may really have a point but IMHO it is most likely the case was scrapped.

Oku · Sep 26, 2022

Mark020
You may really have a point but IMHO it is most likely the case was scrapped.

I like that game: And hour and minute hands were also changed to steel.

Mark020 · Sep 26, 2022

Because they were gold 😉 Seller has over 6k items for sale so perhaps they wanted to create a complete package

Oku · Sep 26, 2022

I see you have an explanation for everything.

Mark020
they wanted to create a complete package

That's why they removed some parts from the movement. Otherwise, the package would have been too complete 😁

bgrisso · Sep 26, 2022

Mark020
Valid point but the only 201.4xx movement I have on record is a 12258. Perhaps the orginal pushers were gold as well.

Be careful not to fall into data bias with all your hard work capturing serials 👍

The Great UG Unknown shall outlive all our efforts

Larry S · Sep 26, 2022

bgrisso
Be careful not to fall into data bias with all your hard work capturing serials 👍

The Great UG Unknown shall outlive all our efforts

Good point. Seen this with early Speedmaster.

Mark020 · Sep 26, 2022

Oku
That's why they removed some parts from the movement.

The expensive ones 😁

Mark020 · Sep 26, 2022

Mark020
Chunkiest UG I've ever seen. Reference 12255? https://www.watchnet.co.jp/en/item/view/5416

Interesting on this one is that - based on the pic - it indeed looks like it has a 12255 inscription. Sala has a picture of 12256 which has imho the same case and also a 978.xxx serial. Also in the design pics it is called 12256. Whatever is: these 122xx variations with the chunky cases are rare birds (Sala says: model built few in number 🙄)

Mark020 · Sep 27, 2022

Following on the earlier discussion. The dial was found on ref 52214. I can only find one online but that has a 262.xxx movement serial and a 281 movement.

Mark020 · Sep 27, 2022

Nice Zenith 22314 coming up for sale: https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci4hZX5L38M/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Mark020 · Sep 27, 2022

Interesting 20922(?) https://www.olx.ro/d/oferta/univers...-IDgmWlA.html?isPreviewActive=0&sliderIndex=7

Mark020 · Sep 27, 2022

While researching the chunky case goldies I found this 12271: https://www.1stdibs.com/jewelry/wat...ax-chronograph-waterproof-1940s/id-j_2786073/ According to the seller: Alone the empty case weighs about 25 grams of 18 carat / 750 gold. Really an epic watch

Another one here: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/45072466_universal-geneve-compax-ref-12271-c-1970

Mark020 · Sep 29, 2022

bgrisso
FYI

Now on ebay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354303100596 According to the seller:
'The dial is clean with a scratch that runs across on the upper half (only visible at some angles). The lume has been professionally corrected to match perfectly with period correct material'.

Carlton-Browne · Sep 29, 2022

Eh? Are they suggesting that they've used radium!?

Mark020 · Sep 29, 2022

Maybe. Read (I think) on Rolexforums that there is a US based relumer who does that albeit at a hefty price... I would describe this lume job as rather sloppy.

Redwes25 · Sep 29, 2022

Mark020
Now on ebay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354303100596 According to the seller:
'The dial is clean with a scratch that runs across on the upper half (only visible at some angles). The lume has been professionally corrected to match perfectly with period correct material'.

That price is in crazy town