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  1. mikeo1 Jun 18, 2021

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  2. Moahunter Jun 18, 2021

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    The fact that HPC is on the dial. But, seriously, we still don't know what HPC means.
     
  3. mikeo1 Jun 18, 2021

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    I agree

    Although I have read multiple discussions suggesting the HPC as indicating a high performance chronometer. Asssociated conversations suggest they were certified at the Institutes in Switzerland, Saxony or Besancon -- all of which I believe were only established in the early 70's..

    Anyone ever seen or tried to get a duplicate certificate?? Could it be a marketing marking indicating a High Performance Chronograph?

    As a reference, for Omega Marine Chronometers you can request and get a duplicate of the original cert if you're so inclined
     
  4. bgrisso Jun 18, 2021

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    There are also time only watches marked HPC, so "Chronograph" is out.
     
  5. mikeo1 Jun 18, 2021

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    bgrisso-very good point; I obviously didn't consider that-

    A little more info on certification process prior to 1973 (Wiki):
    Between 1961 and 1973,[22] “a chronometer [was] a precision watch, which [was] regulated in several positions and at different temperatures and which had received a certificate [from the (“B.O.)]." Collective certificates, rather than individual certificates, were usually issued. The 1961–73 standard required a mean daily rate in five positions of −1/+10. In 1973, the C.O.S.C. certified a specified daily rate of −4/+6 sec.

    In consideration of the today's manufacturing prowess /equipment sets one might wonder why there has been no tightening of the performance requirement.....certainly a good ride for some....
     
  6. Moahunter Jun 19, 2021

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    Two factors rule out the C for Chronometre explanation, at least for this example.
    1. There is no sign of the movement being numbered.
    2. The movement is inscribed "Unadjusted".
    Even C for Certification seems unlikely given the apparent absence of any identification like a numbered movement.
     
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  7. timoss Jun 21, 2021

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  8. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jun 21, 2021

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  9. Joe_A Jun 21, 2021

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  10. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer Jun 23, 2021

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    This is an interesting one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304042207162?hash=item46ca53e7ba:g:WxAAAOSw5Yxg0kJQPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    Another HPC. Bit of a strange reference: 312201 and serial 1320903. Movement: 100931. Also a P added?

    However: unfortunately there is not much to be found on google anymore but some time ago serial 1.320.937 with movement 100.800 and also marked HPC appeared on Ebay (
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universa...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network)

    First time I see 2 close serials of the same reference marked HPC.

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  11. Mazoue Jun 23, 2021

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    Does that case back belong on a watch with chromed case?

    This one seems to be gold plated (or is it 18K? I can't tell).
     
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  12. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer Jun 23, 2021

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    Good question. I think it is plated
     
  13. Victor-Emilian Jun 23, 2021

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    Hey guys! This showed up on my local market from Romania! If anyone is interested here, I can put you in touch with the seller! No any connection or benefits! Is asking €1k! But there is a piece missing, so I am sure he will be open for discussions!
     
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  14. Lurk41 Jun 23, 2021

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    TBH this part is close to impossible to find... at least if you are looking for a 45min counter 8270. A guy in Germany is reproducing the part for 30min counter, no idea how well it would fit a uni-compax.
     
  15. bgrisso Jun 23, 2021

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    looks like that missing part is the very least of the problems
     
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  16. bgrisso Jun 23, 2021

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    thanks for posting and interesting info on the second example you found (the ebay link does not work for me, so I can't see anything)

    Hard to say what is going on here since the caseback does not match the case, or vice versa. No way to know if it's even a UG case. But still, interesting info just on the dial and movement.
     
  17. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer Jun 24, 2021

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    Too bad the earlier Ebay link is not available anymore.
     
  18. loniscup Jun 24, 2021

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  19. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer Jun 24, 2021

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    Interesting to see that the movement is numbered.
     
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  20. Kay995 Jun 26, 2021

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    Interesting polerouter with snake skin patina?
     
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