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mikeo1
·HPC Medico compax: https://www.ebay.com/itm/124776822432?hash=item1d0d4736a0:g:QmgAAOSwbzpgzAvx
What makes it a HPC?
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Moahunter
·The fact that HPC is on the dial. But, seriously, we still don't know what HPC means.
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mikeo1
·I agree
Although I have read multiple discussions suggesting the HPC as indicating a high performance chronometer. Asssociated conversations suggest they were certified at the Institutes in Switzerland, Saxony or Besancon -- all of which I believe were only established in the early 70's..
Anyone ever seen or tried to get a duplicate certificate?? Could it be a marketing marking indicating a High Performance Chronograph?
As a reference, for Omega Marine Chronometers you can request and get a duplicate of the original cert if you're so inclined
Although I have read multiple discussions suggesting the HPC as indicating a high performance chronometer. Asssociated conversations suggest they were certified at the Institutes in Switzerland, Saxony or Besancon -- all of which I believe were only established in the early 70's..
Anyone ever seen or tried to get a duplicate certificate?? Could it be a marketing marking indicating a High Performance Chronograph?
As a reference, for Omega Marine Chronometers you can request and get a duplicate of the original cert if you're so inclined
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bgrisso
·I agree
Although I have read multiple discussions suggesting the HPC as indicating a high performance chronometer. Asssociated conversations suggest they were certified at the Institutes in Switzerland, Saxony or Besancon -- all of which I believe were only established in the early 70's..
Anyone ever seen or tried to get a duplicate certificate?? Could it be a marketing marking indicating a High Performance Chronograph?
As a reference, for Omega Marine Chronometers you can request and get a duplicate of the original cert if you're so inclined
There are also time only watches marked HPC, so "Chronograph" is out.
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mikeo1
·There are also time only watches marked HPC, so "Chronograph" is out.
bgrisso-very good point; I obviously didn't consider that-
A little more info on certification process prior to 1973 (Wiki):
Between 1961 and 1973,[22] “a chronometer [was] a precision watch, which [was] regulated in several positions and at different temperatures and which had received a certificate [from the (“B.O.)]." Collective certificates, rather than individual certificates, were usually issued. The 1961–73 standard required a mean daily rate in five positions of −1/+10. In 1973, the C.O.S.C. certified a specified daily rate of −4/+6 sec.
In consideration of the today's manufacturing prowess /equipment sets one might wonder why there has been no tightening of the performance requirement.....certainly a good ride for some....
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Moahunter
·bgrisso-very good point; I obviously didn't consider that-
A little more info on certification process prior to 1973 (Wiki):
Between 1961 and 1973,[22] “a chronometer [was] a precision watch, which [was] regulated in several positions and at different temperatures and which had received a certificate [from the (“B.O.)]." Collective certificates, rather than individual certificates, were usually issued. The 1961–73 standard required a mean daily rate in five positions of −1/+10. In 1973, the C.O.S.C. certified a specified daily rate of −4/+6 sec.
In consideration of the today's manufacturing prowess /equipment sets one might wonder why there has been no tightening of the performance requirement.....certainly a good ride for some....
1. There is no sign of the movement being numbered.
2. The movement is inscribed "Unadjusted".
Even C for Certification seems unlikely given the apparent absence of any identification like a numbered movement.
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.
A rare and expensive bird indeed.
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Joe_A
·This article may be of interest:
https://revolutionwatch.com/the-sto...oma-an-italian-military-materiel-distributor/
I know very little about A. Cairelli, though a bit more now.
https://revolutionwatch.com/the-sto...oma-an-italian-military-materiel-distributor/
I know very little about A. Cairelli, though a bit more now.
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerThis is an interesting one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304042207162?hash=item46ca53e7ba:g:WxAAAOSw5Yxg0kJQ
Another HPC. Bit of a strange reference: 312201 and serial 1320903. Movement: 100931. Also a P added?
However: unfortunately there is not much to be found on google anymore but some time ago serial 1.320.937 with movement 100.800 and also marked HPC appeared on Ebay (
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universa...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
First time I see 2 close serials of the same reference marked HPC.
Another HPC. Bit of a strange reference: 312201 and serial 1320903. Movement: 100931. Also a P added?
However: unfortunately there is not much to be found on google anymore but some time ago serial 1.320.937 with movement 100.800 and also marked HPC appeared on Ebay (
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universa...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
First time I see 2 close serials of the same reference marked HPC.
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Mazoue
·This is an interesting one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304042207162?hash=item46ca53e7ba:g:WxAAAOSw5Yxg0kJQ
Another HPC. Bit of a strange reference: 312201 and serial 1320903. Movement: 100931. Also a P added?
However: unfortunately there is not much to be found on google anymore but some time ago serial 1.320.937 with movement 100.800 and also marked HPC appeared on Ebay (
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-geneve-Exclusive-HPC-/154285793733?hash=item23ec2661c5:g:qB4AAOSwObNf5yaH&nma=true&si=7cJ0H931yoFjJpIZ55Y3%2BM0BJ7Y%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
First time I see 2 close serials of the same reference marked HPC.
This one seems to be gold plated (or is it 18K? I can't tell).
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerGood question. I think it is plated
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Lurk41
·TBH this part is close to impossible to find... at least if you are looking for a 45min counter 8270. A guy in Germany is reproducing the part for 30min counter, no idea how well it would fit a uni-compax.
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bgrisso
·looks like that missing part is the very least of the problems
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bgrisso
·This is an interesting one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304042207162?hash=item46ca53e7ba:g:WxAAAOSw5Yxg0kJQ
Another HPC. Bit of a strange reference: 312201 and serial 1320903. Movement: 100931. Also a P added?
However: unfortunately there is not much to be found on google anymore but some time ago serial 1.320.937 with movement 100.800 and also marked HPC appeared on Ebay (
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-geneve-Exclusive-HPC-/154285793733?hash=item23ec2661c5:g:qB4AAOSwObNf5yaH&nma=true&si=7cJ0H931yoFjJpIZ55Y3%2BM0BJ7Y%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
First time I see 2 close serials of the same reference marked HPC.
thanks for posting and interesting info on the second example you found (the ebay link does not work for me, so I can't see anything)
Hard to say what is going on here since the caseback does not match the case, or vice versa. No way to know if it's even a UG case. But still, interesting info just on the dial and movement.
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerToo bad the earlier Ebay link is not available anymore.
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loniscup
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerInteresting to see that the movement is numbered.
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