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Universal Geneve Watches On Ebay

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTA...310868?hash=item5483f7d814:g:Z3MAAOSwc1Jet-7x

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Listing notes "the dial has a small patch of light ageing around the edge at 3-5 o'clock" - other than that, what does everyone think?

Serial and reference both seem consistent with dial and movement, and the crown looks original (can't see in these photos, but other photos in listing show it). The outer ring looks misaligned with the dial (the "Swiss" and UG shield do not align with 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock, respectively), but that seems fixable.
 
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Larry S
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Yikes....Aspiration is everything.
 
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Careful all ebay-ers. Almost got sucked into one this morning, but upon closer inspection (and a sharp eye from a fellow OF member -thanks!!) note that the "6" is closed from the later tonneau model, and more worrisome is the appearance of a jewel being "glued" into the movement. Eek. Buyer beware !!!
 
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Advertised as original dial, and a lume you'll see from out your window

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/rare-unive...ax-orig-dial-chronograph-vintage/184297509705
 
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M Moahunter
I'm thinking abour this case/dial with the missing red inner numbers. Does anyone know if all the 1205 Railrouters were swoppable - case/dial/movement etc. Might be easier/cheaper to get some dial meister to add the red numbers. OK it would be slightly Franken but I don't intend to pass it off as "Original*.
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It might be I've got cabin fever after a prolonged lockdown (partially voluntary} but I've bought the Railrouter after negotiating a price. I was dubious at one point because there is no Serial# on the caseback but it does have the movement# duplicated there and the correct case ref.
There is a casemaker(?) logo on the inside of the caseback, any info?
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Now I have to decide what to do about the dial.
 
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This is the logo of Huguenin Fr猫res - they are arguably most famous for the speedmaster cases with lyrelugs (and tricompax cases with lyrelugs) 馃榾
 
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https://www.ebay.it/itm/233596229753

Honest watch. Unperfect dial, non original crown, few scratches on back and no movement pic. But and honest watch. Difficult to find MK1 at this price range. But sometimes they pop up. Shame about the dial... Difficult to replace...
 
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MarktheTime MarktheTime
Careful all ebay-ers. Almost got sucked into one this morning, but upon closer inspection (and a sharp eye from a fellow OF member -thanks!!) note that the "6" is closed from the later tonneau model, and more worrisome is the appearance of a jewel being "glued" into the movement. Eek. Buyer beware !!!

This seems to be an obvious re-dial, with white paint pooled everywhere and smooth sub-dial edges. I didn't see it on eBay, but didn't the seller indicate that the dial was refinished?
 
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M ma_kilian
how about that?
any thoughts @yala

https://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-...467876?hash=item3fe22be7e4:g:ZtcAAOSwfWFezKqM

Ah yes, this one 馃榾 I think it鈥檚 quite expensive - case looks polished - the gold cases I know have lugs that turn inward. hard to say if it鈥檚 the case here, i can鈥檛 clearly see it on the pictures. The porthole date is silver, the rest of the applications is brass - haven鈥檛 seen this combination before on a Mono (and to be fair, @filmir pointed this out to me a few days ago, but only now i know what he meant 馃榾. The datewheel is pearly white, while the dial is patinated. My guess is the datewheel was changed (but who knows, maybe not). But then - the crown.

All golden Monos I have seen that feature a Connie-style case with inward-turned lugs had a flat crown. This looks like a crown from a Polerouter De Luxe (agree, @CafeRacer ?). So, all in all - the premium you pay for this watch in this condition is because of the dial saying Freccero.
 
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Has somebody bent the lugs to get that non-OEM bracelet to fit? Streuth!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-Universal-Geneve-Polerouter-MICRO-ROTOR-Cal-69-MENS-XRARE-28-JEWELS/323741086426

It does look that way. A bit surprising as there is an identical genuine UG version of that bracelet that would be correct for this watch. I guess the version here must be 19mm rather than 18mm.
 
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Dan S Dan S
This seems to be an obvious re-dial, with white paint pooled everywhere and smooth sub-dial edges. I didn't see it on eBay, but didn't the seller indicate that the dial was refinished?
Nope.
 
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