They are getting better. However, apart from what has been commented on, round three's are a giveaway. No doubt that will be addressed in the next execution of redials ...

 

So sad about this dial, the case is very cool. https://www.ebay.com/itm/182498070234Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

 

Looking to purchase my first UG - how does this one look to you guys? I'm a relative newcomer to the brand so I'd love your input before I splash the cash!

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Redial so not worth your splash.

 

Interesting - could you share why you think this is a redial? To my (admittedly novice) eye, the dial does look aged somewhat although perhaps not having the patina one would expect of a 70 year old watch

 

Let’s begin with the fact that this is not a Compax.

 

Subdials not centered, lack of telephony counter in the minute subdial (only found in rail track subdial pattern but not this). Also the case looks pretty early (judging from UG logo) doesn’t fit the dial style.

Telephony dial just to demonstrate.

 

Thanks so much guys - I'm learning a lot on here. Will steer clear of this one!

 

+ no model (compur or uni compax) on the dial

 

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Hey guys,
I have the opportunity to look at this one in person. The dial seems almost too good to be true and after an extensive web search I couldn't find a single picture of a medico-compax with this dial. Also, I haven't purchased a UG before so any thoughts from the expert crowd would be highly appreciated!
p.s. I hope this wasn't posted before, otherwise apologies in advance!

 

Redial (fonts are different), wrong subdial hands, wrong chrono hand, probably wrong hour and minute hand, not even sure about the case (no serial or model number)

Avoid at all cost

 

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Ummm... Already at $1500 in about 12 hours. Is this were Polerouters are these days? Everything check out on this one?

 

The shape of the case and the movement put it in the mid 60's and not 50's. Looks all correct to me, maybe a little polished but a nice example overall. But for +1500 i would expect the caseback logo clearly visible...

 

Black stainless steel polerouter seems to gain value very fast those days ... when they are in honest condition.
This one looks pretty good indeed ...

 

Though the seller has listed as NOS, the only thing NOS is the Limited Edition Sticker on the caseback. Crystal is replaced, minor dings, and crown is not correct. Those lugs though...



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That's an interesting observation. I've noticed that the caseback logo is often faint or missing for this reference (869113/01 with black dial, 869113/02 with white dial). I guess it was just slightly less prominent to start with.

 

I’ve been following this with interest as I have the same watch with GF bracelet which was going to sell. Shilling or legit bidding

 

I have never seen this ref, can anyone weigh in? the subdials and their numerals remind me of the Seamaster chronos.

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Update: more examples and a similar Breitling version here...

http://www.vintage-breitling.com/?product=universal-geneve-compax-with-venus-178-movement-mint
http://www.vintage-breitling.com/?product=breitling-ref-810-top-time-venus-178-movement-2

 

I'm thinking redial ... The font and the track on those subdials looks pretty wonky ... and I don't know what to say about the color of that lume ..

 

Franken redial watch