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  1. Tri-Compax Aug 5, 2021

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    Hi all,

    discovered this watch, will get it into my hands in a couple of days.
    Only then I can check out the movement.

    Can’t find a similar 6DEF4A81-F224-4249-8B79-E127B64C310B.jpeg dial with H.P.C. marking.

    Any input regarding the originality or rarity would be appreciated.

    Based on I know so far it’s hard to judge the value.

    Thank you.
     
  2. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Aug 5, 2021

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    Caseback shot?
     
  3. Dan S Aug 5, 2021

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  4. Tri-Compax Aug 5, 2021

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    I can only get into my hands again in a couple of days. Then it’s also decision time.
    Attached picture of a case back is not the actual watch, but it did look like this.

    Thank you 12B3C99F-C68B-4E71-873C-87D82EC5739A.jpeg 12B3C99F-C68B-4E71-873C-87D82EC5739A.jpeg
     
  5. Tri-Compax Aug 5, 2021

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  6. Dan S Aug 5, 2021

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    I don't think that the OP watch is a 22297.
     
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  7. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Aug 5, 2021

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    Just checked in after we corresponded. My concerns stand. I do not think this is legit. Hopefully you can stop the sale.
     
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  8. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Aug 5, 2021

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    Case should have small pushers and the correctors should not protrude. This should not have a moon with a face. Total Franken.
     
  9. bgrisso Aug 5, 2021

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    It looks like an original dial to me, not sure about how it matches up with the rest of the watch. As Larry said, would think a faceless moon would be expected. I think there are at least 4 examples of ballpark similarish HPC Tri in this thread, you might want to start with detailed comparisons to these examples, etc.

    https://omegaforums.net/threads/chronographs-classified-as-chronometres.65996/
     
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  10. mikeo1 Aug 6, 2021

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  11. Tri-Compax Aug 6, 2021

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    Thank you.

    I have seen many using google and did read other posts here.
    Just couldn’t find the same dial, HPC, steel anywhere.

    Got the input above, much appreciated.
    Won’t pay a cent for it but still taking another look and more pictures.
     
  12. mikeo1 Aug 6, 2021

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    Welcome-

    Not crazy about the dial (dates seem a bit too big) and telephone markers seem short to me but I'd be hard pressed to say it's absolutely a reprint.

    Price is always a consideration; for a great price would it be wise to throw away an otherwise solid watch because of the wrong moon dial or even a reprinted dial for a steal? Parts are still around but sourcing is usually a question of diligence.
     
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  13. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Aug 6, 2021

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    Absolutely has parts value…Dial, (original) Moon Disc and hopefully movement.
     
  14. bgrisso Aug 6, 2021

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    I've seen several date configurations, you can see the types in the above thread that I linked, and also in some of the examples in this thread, but anyhow you have 1) all big dates (where some of the printing runs off the edge of the moonphase opening) and then 2) all small (like in the above example from google, and then you also have 3) half big half small

    I don't see problems with the dial myself, not sure what to say about the rest of the watch without seeing the case reference, etc.

    the upper date hand should be red, so that's wrong, moonphase disc looks replaced, and the lower hour totalizer hand looks suspect also?

    anyhow i wouldn't give up on the watch without more research
     
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  15. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Aug 6, 2021

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    This is not a 22297 case. Not sure what it is.
     
  16. mikeo1 Aug 6, 2021

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  17. bgrisso Aug 6, 2021

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    The case back pics are google examples, there is only the one photo of OP watch so far
     
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  18. mikeo1 Aug 6, 2021

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    I think the OP said his photo wasn't of the actual watch....

    "Attached picture of a case back is not the actual watch, but it did look like this."
     
  19. Tri-Compax Aug 7, 2021

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    more pictures of the actual watch…
     
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  20. Tri-Compax Aug 7, 2021

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