Hi all, discovered this watch, will get it into my hands in a couple of days. Only then I can check out the movement. Can’t find a similar dial with H.P.C. marking. Any input regarding the originality or rarity would be appreciated. Based on I know so far it’s hard to judge the value. Thank you.
I can only get into my hands again in a couple of days. Then it’s also decision time. Attached picture of a case back is not the actual watch, but it did look like this. Thank you
Thank you and appreciated. I will share more pictures (if I purchased it)… promised. Unfortunately I don’t have more info yet, desperate to get more.
Just checked in after we corresponded. My concerns stand. I do not think this is legit. Hopefully you can stop the sale.
Case should have small pushers and the correctors should not protrude. This should not have a moon with a face. Total Franken.
It looks like an original dial to me, not sure about how it matches up with the rest of the watch. As Larry said, would think a faceless moon would be expected. I think there are at least 4 examples of ballpark similarish HPC Tri in this thread, you might want to start with detailed comparisons to these examples, etc. https://omegaforums.net/threads/chronographs-classified-as-chronometres.65996/
UNIVERSAL GENEVE, REF. 22297/3 others @ https://www.google.com/search?q=uni...iw=1707&bih=804&dpr=1.13#imgrc=eRkC-Sou4NuwFM
Thank you. I have seen many using google and did read other posts here. Just couldn’t find the same dial, HPC, steel anywhere. Got the input above, much appreciated. Won’t pay a cent for it but still taking another look and more pictures.
Welcome- Not crazy about the dial (dates seem a bit too big) and telephone markers seem short to me but I'd be hard pressed to say it's absolutely a reprint. Price is always a consideration; for a great price would it be wise to throw away an otherwise solid watch because of the wrong moon dial or even a reprinted dial for a steal? Parts are still around but sourcing is usually a question of diligence.
I've seen several date configurations, you can see the types in the above thread that I linked, and also in some of the examples in this thread, but anyhow you have 1) all big dates (where some of the printing runs off the edge of the moonphase opening) and then 2) all small (like in the above example from google, and then you also have 3) half big half small I don't see problems with the dial myself, not sure what to say about the rest of the watch without seeing the case reference, etc. the upper date hand should be red, so that's wrong, moonphase disc looks replaced, and the lower hour totalizer hand looks suspect also? anyhow i wouldn't give up on the watch without more research
case body looks ok to me https://shop.analogshift.com/products/universal-geneve-tricompax-2 https://www.acollectedman.com/products/buy-universal-geneve-tri-compax-22297?variant=35598800323 not sure about the case back shouldn't it have a serial number below the case reference? I thought all big date numbers printed over the edge occurred on slanted registers late 50"s pieces
I think the OP said his photo wasn't of the actual watch.... "Attached picture of a case back is not the actual watch, but it did look like this."
21311 seems to be close to the buttons and moon disk looking as attached… https://shop.analogshift.com/collec...s/as03031-universal-geneve-calendar-moonphase