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Universal Geneve FS, the "other” railway watch

  1. bgrisso Apr 28, 2020

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    welcome, thank you for joining and for the book !
     
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  2. perseo66 Apr 28, 2020

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    Talking about watches is the thing I like best. Compare myself with others. It gives me an extra charge to always look for new and different watches. Now I am studying for myself the second book on railway clocks in the world. To understand the differences with Italian watches. And to pay homage to these still little known watches ..
     
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  3. perseo66 Apr 28, 2020

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    The universal watch for italian railways like all other watch. They were sold without the strap. The strap was purchased separately. It certainly was not marked universal. I discovered this news by studying the tender documents .... Which I then included in my book.
     
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  4. perseo66 Apr 28, 2020

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    Help me please anybody have it? Original paper for scanning?
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  5. filmir Apr 28, 2020

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    Thank you Roberto. Glad you decided to join us! Sure you will bring answers to a lot of old questions! :thumbsup:
     
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  6. ekel Apr 28, 2020

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    A warm welcome Roberto and thank you for joining us! It would be great to see the tender documents.
     
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  7. perseo66 May 2, 2020

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    Hi guys this is another prototype see photo
     
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  8. perseo66 May 2, 2020

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    Crown isnt original...
     
  9. filmir May 2, 2020

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    Thanks! Why do you think there is such a small amount of these 3rd version (1500/2000)? Did UG lost the contract? And why would they change the dial to a non enamel One? :)
     
  10. klugt1990 May 5, 2020

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    Is this the prototype you were referring to in your earlier post? Or is this yet another prototype?
     
  11. perseo66 May 5, 2020

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    Another. See the number on back
     
  12. perseo66 May 5, 2020

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    But some reference
     
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  13. bubba48 May 5, 2020

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    Ciao Roberto :thumbsup:
     
  14. MarktheTime May 16, 2020

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    Careful all ebay-ers. Almost got sucked into one this morning, but upon closer inspection (and a sharp eye from a fellow OF member -thanks!!) note that the "6" is closed from the later tonneau model, and more worrisome is the appearance of a jewel being "glued" into the movement. Eek. Buyer beware!!!
     
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  15. klugt1990 May 16, 2020

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    15 and 45 on the sub-dial should also not be horizontally aligned on the "first" generation.
     
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  16. filmir May 17, 2020

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    Second generation dial on a first generation case. :thumbsup: Run away!
     
  17. Aedaxoo Jun 15, 2020

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    My first ferrovie dello statto and a prototype as well. What is weird to me is that all numbers are straight until the last one. Maybe someone knows why? Any
     
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  18. klugt1990 Jun 21, 2020

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    What's the verdict on the crowns on these watches? My own MK1 has the thin capital U crown, which is the most common variant. Are there other crowns correct for these watches? For instance the fat U crowns, which I've seen a few times as well.
     
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  19. perseo66 Jun 21, 2020

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    It is the mold of numbers some to all universal prototypes ... Truly a beautiful watch

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  20. filmir Jun 21, 2020

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    I have seen the fat U crowns on some, but I guess they are replacementsi since I have seen the capital U in all the three versions of the watch. Buy still open to new ideas.