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Universal Geneve FS, the "other” railway watch

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Very FANTASTIC topic, my mane is Roberto trombetta and i wrote "IL TEMPO NEI TRENI" ITALIAN RAILROD
They are always available to talk about Italian railway watches trying to explain the characteristics and differences. I have been collecting watches for about 30 years and I have written this book about my experiences and found documents.
Universal geneve there are 3 types. + 1 prototype with 7-digit serial number ..
Sorry avotu my english not so well...
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Roberto

welcome, thank you for joining and for the book !
 
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Talking about watches is the thing I like best. Compare myself with others. It gives me an extra charge to always look for new and different watches. Now I am studying for myself the second book on railway clocks in the world. To understand the differences with Italian watches. And to pay homage to these still little known watches ..
 
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The universal watch for italian railways like all other watch. They were sold without the strap. The strap was purchased separately. It certainly was not marked universal. I discovered this news by studying the tender documents .... Which I then included in my book.
 
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The universal watch for italian railways like all other watch. They were sold without the strap. The strap was purchased separately. It certainly was not marked universal. I discovered this news by studying the tender documents .... Which I then included in my book.

Thank you Roberto. Glad you decided to join us! Sure you will bring answers to a lot of old questions! 👍
 
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The universal watch for italian railways like all other watch. They were sold without the strap. The strap was purchased separately. It certainly was not marked universal. I discovered this news by studying the tender documents .... Which I then included in my book.
A warm welcome Roberto and thank you for joining us! It would be great to see the tender documents.
 
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Hi guys this is another prototype see photo

Thanks! Why do you think there is such a small amount of these 3rd version (1500/2000)? Did UG lost the contract? And why would they change the dial to a non enamel One? 😀
 
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Hi guys this is another prototype see photo
Is this the prototype you were referring to in your earlier post? Or is this yet another prototype?
 
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Is this the prototype you were referring to in your earlier post? Or is this yet another prototype?
Another. See the number on back
 
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Careful all ebay-ers. Almost got sucked into one this morning, but upon closer inspection (and a sharp eye from a fellow OF member -thanks!!) note that the "6" is closed from the later tonneau model, and more worrisome is the appearance of a jewel being "glued" into the movement. Eek. Buyer beware!!!
 
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15 and 45 on the sub-dial should also not be horizontally aligned on the "first" generation.
 
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15 and 45 on the sub-dial should also not be horizontally aligned on the "first" generation.

Second generation dial on a first generation case. 👍 Run away!
 
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My first ferrovie dello statto and a prototype as well. What is weird to me is that all numbers are straight until the last one. Maybe someone knows why? Any
 
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What's the verdict on the crowns on these watches? My own MK1 has the thin capital U crown, which is the most common variant. Are there other crowns correct for these watches? For instance the fat U crowns, which I've seen a few times as well.
 
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It is the mold of numbers some to all universal prototypes ... Truly a beautiful watch

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What's the verdict on the crowns on these watches? My own MK1 has the thin capital U crown, which is the most common variant. Are there other crowns correct for these watches? For instance the fat U crowns, which I've seen a few times as well.

I have seen the fat U crowns on some, but I guess they are replacementsi since I have seen the capital U in all the three versions of the watch. Buy still open to new ideas.
 
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