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·Saw this today and was highlighted to this feed by a good friend and UG enthusiast. Very interesting and I suspect another Franken for the asking price of $40k +apparently….
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerWell still not on the website so no serial known. Curious to see whether there will be some pattern to be found
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doctor steel
·Ho visto questo orologio qualche giorno fa. Sembra che questi quadranti siano nati originariamente su casse in oro, ma esteticamente il quadrante è perfetto per un cronografo in acciaio. In pochi anni ho visto 4/5 modelli così e tutti hanno lievi imperfezioni ma sono buoni
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerIntruiging. I'd have said that that serial would be a GP. So: (never assume anything at UG) x (may be a small 'out of the ordinary' batch)
828.697: https://www.shellman-online.jp/view/item/000000000288
828.864: https://web.archive.org/web/20200812101210/https://www.iconeek.com/universaljumbocompax22410.html
828.697: https://www.shellman-online.jp/view/item/000000000288
828.864: https://web.archive.org/web/20200812101210/https://www.iconeek.com/universaljumbocompax22410.html
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bgrisso
·thanks for getting this info.
what would be interesting to know is the case serial and reference for all the other existing examples and see if there are any patterns
what would be interesting to know is the case serial and reference for all the other existing examples and see if there are any patterns
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bgrisso
·Digging around a little on these, since I love them so much. It's too bad there's no UG archives pic, but again, the absence of that does not prove anything.
The two archives pics we have are for gold references, those were already posted at the start of this thread
Interesting to note that both have (thin) stick hands and both examples have short subdial hands (they only go to the edge of the white inner circle on the subdial, not to the outer edge of the full subdial).
In terms of examples I've seen online, many of them have (thin) stick hands, some have thicker (stick/very slight sword) hands, and there are a mix of both long and short subdial hands.
I have no idea what any of that suggests. If everyone that owns an example is willing to share their reference and serial, it would be interesting to note if they are all ref 22410 ?? and if the serials are clustered or not ??
The two archives pics we have are for gold references, those were already posted at the start of this thread
Interesting to note that both have (thin) stick hands and both examples have short subdial hands (they only go to the edge of the white inner circle on the subdial, not to the outer edge of the full subdial).
In terms of examples I've seen online, many of them have (thin) stick hands, some have thicker (stick/very slight sword) hands, and there are a mix of both long and short subdial hands.
I have no idea what any of that suggests. If everyone that owns an example is willing to share their reference and serial, it would be interesting to note if they are all ref 22410 ?? and if the serials are clustered or not ??
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bgrisso
·On a side note, there's some additional writing on the 22410 archives pic. I cannot read it well enough to try and translate. Anyone else? Also I wonder why it says USA ?
Lastly, there appears to be another spillman case reference 22499.
Are these both identical Spillman cases, and if so, it is normal to have two different reference numbers for the same case in the same model line?
Lastly, there appears to be another spillman case reference 22499.
Are these both identical Spillman cases, and if so, it is normal to have two different reference numbers for the same case in the same model line?
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer(Avec cadr[ant] different) which means 'with other dial' Can't recognise the first word
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abrahamovic
·Gallet comes to mind
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abrahamovic
·by the way, here it is again, posted by @Northernman
https://omegaforums.net/threads/ug-compax-reference-22209.28243/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/ug-compax-reference-22209.28243/
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bgrisso
·by the way, here it is again, posted by @Northernman
https://omegaforums.net/threads/ug-compax-reference-22209.28243/
Are you talking about this catalog page which mentioned 22410
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer
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southtexas
·It's amazing that every example that has surfaced is in such pristine condition, compared to the hundreds or thousands of similarly aged UGs whose dials show the serious effects of time/age. What are the odds of that?
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerVery valid point. And I think we all know the answer
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jumpingsecond
·From what I know in talking to previous owners /dealers from where these watches surfaced - these prototype dials were sent to top Universal Geneve dealers of the time to test the market and saleability. They didnt gain traction and hence were never put into a full production at this size. Now we find them extremely desirable. Amazing how time changes.
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