Tudor GMT date wheel

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Was this an issue with the GMT movement specifically?

Yes.
 
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I'm the same - I love the watch, but wish I could be in a position to not worry about the value! 馃檨
In general I think of my watch in a similar way to buying a car. I mostly buy used at below retail so I don't lose money as soon as I buy it.
I then use it as its meant to be used. Maintain it and hope if it lasts me 20 years. I figure, if it hasn't cost too much to keep it going, it doesn't owe me too much after that.

I had a great deal and paid 拢2200 pristine 2nd hand for my GMT. After 20 years I may have had it serviced twice (拢1200 total). Let's say for argument I then sell it for 拢1400 (50% ish of current RRP). It will then have cost me 拢2k so that's 拢2 a week for 20 years to wear a great watch. I'm fine with that.
 
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Now could be a good time to buy - I bought second hand, 3 months old, and paid around 拢2700...this was last year when prices were higher...I can't see the watch falling below 2k - it has too much quality - we'll see I guess...
I鈥檝e seen leather/NATO versions go for less than 拢2k, although they don鈥檛 come up as often as the bracelet. I鈥檓 currently watching one with a starting bid of 拢2,300 - it鈥檚 approaching the end of its third listing, zero bids.
 
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I鈥檝e seen leather/NATO versions go for less than 拢2k, although they don鈥檛 come up as often as the bracelet. I鈥檓 currently watching one with a starting bid of 拢2,300 - it鈥檚 approaching the end of its third listing, zero bids.
There is definately a cloud hanging over the watch....it just depends how much you like/want it - the situation with the date issue is it could be a 90% chance it will happen over say a 10 year period, or it could be say a 10% chance...as things stand, nobody is really certain....Tudor don't help by saying nothing about it....
 
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There is definately a cloud hanging over the watch....it just depends how much you like/want it - the situation with the date issue is it could be a 90% chance it will happen over say a 10 year period, or it could be say a 10% chance...as things stand, nobody is really certain....Tudor don't help by saying nothing about it....
I get what you are saying but I don't think it is such a big issue. If it happens over 10 years it will be due a service anyway and additional cost to sort it won't be too major.
In the meantime if it happens out of warranty then, as I said before, the movement is very quick to adjust date. The hour hand has an independent setting function without hacking the watch. So it takes less than 5 seconds to wind back 24 hours to adjust date and watch continues to run accurately while doing it.
You can then wait until it is due a service anyway and get repaired then.

Or maybe I am just too easy going and tend not fret too much
 
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I get what you are saying but I don't think it is such a big issue. If it happens over 10 years it will be due a service anyway and additional cost to sort it won't be too major.
In the meantime if it happens out of warranty then, as I said before, the movement is very quick to adjust date. The hour hand has an independent setting function without hacking the watch. So it takes less than 5 seconds to wind back 24 hours to adjust date and watch continues to run accurately while doing it.
You can then wait until it is due a service anyway and get repaired then.

Or maybe I am just too easy going and tend not fret too much
Sure, I get where you're coming from - I guess all Tudor owners look at Snowflake Submariner prices and start to dream their watch may gain value lol...but in all honestly you are right - it should be taking pleasure in the watch and to hell with the rest of it..
 
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Sure, I get where you're coming from - I guess all Tudor owners look at Snowflake Submariner prices and start to dream their watch may gain value lol...but in all honestly you are right - it should be taking pleasure in the watch and to hell with the rest of it..
Or put the cash in an ISA instead 馃槈
 
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Or put the cash in an ISA instead 馃槈
The problem with ISA's, at least in my case, they gave me a cash card....lol...I found that way too tempting! Back to the subject though - I think for the long-term good of the watch, Tudor need to release a statement if/when they have got to the bottom of the issue - words to the effect of - if you encounter the issue, we can fix it....and that fix is permanent. And - brand new watches no longer encounter this issue....because in all honestly the whole subject is rife with conjecture and confusion as it stands!
 
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So yeah. I did not buy my Speedy as an investment, nor did/do I plan on buying the GMT as one either.
However the thought definitely crosses my mind. I do try to pick wisely based on multiple factors.
And I'd be lying if I said that part of me is not speculating that this watch has the potential possibility of becoming a future classic.
I was not planning on buying another watch for a long while. In fact, I really did not think I would ever want to buy anything else (of substance) after getting the Speedy.
But you all are a bad influence. And here I am.
I fell like now would be a good time to buy one, if I'm going to buy one. But I am just a bit hesitant now that I have found out about this known issue.
Not sure if it is enough of a deterrent though.
I want this watch because I wanted something that I didn't have to worry about. Something I could bump the crystal on and then jump in the pool with. I'm always so careful with my Speedy. I don't baby it, but I'm also very mindful of it when I have it on. Careful that I don't brush it against anything and even taking it off when it is bath time for the kids. I know it is good to 50M...but still...
I wanted a polar dial 16570 to be my GMT watch when the time came but those are creeping up in price and again I want something that I hopefully wont feel the need to baby.
So the Tudor GMT just sort of checked all the boxes for me.
 
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it should be taking pleasure in the watch and to hell with the rest of it..
Pleasure for sure, but if I鈥檇 spent even 拢2k on a watch that needed its date wheel fixing more than once it would make me angry let alone nervous about when it would happen next. There鈥檚 no pleasure in that. I wanted a Pepsi GMT, so I ended up buying a Steinhart 39 homage until the Tudor issue is resolved. Sacrilege to many on here I鈥檓 sure, but at least its ETA movement is proven reliable.
 
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I think the bottom line is the thought that the watch you've invested in is appreciating or at least holding it's value is a good thought - it intensifies your interest in the piece and even if you never sell, makes you feel somewhat lucky to own - it can only be a good thing....
 
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I think the bottom line is the thought that the watch you've invested in is appreciating or at least holding it's value is a good thought - it intensifies your interest in the piece and even if you never sell, makes you feel somewhat lucky to own - it can only be a good thing....
The fact is the overwhelming vast majority of watches do not appreciate or even hold their value when you take into account service costs every 5-10 years. In most cases we just delude ourselves (and our other halves 馃榾). I include myself in this.

The 拢3k Tudor we bought may still worth the same after 20yrs but the 拢1-2k it has cost us to maintain will mostly not be recouped.

The exceptions to this rule are either ones that cannot be predicted so are lucky purchases or ones that are generally unavailable at RRP unless you are well-connected.
 
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So yeah. I did not buy my Speedy as an investment, nor did/do I plan on buying the GMT as one either.
However the thought definitely crosses my mind. I do try to pick wisely based on multiple factors.
And I'd be lying if I said that part of me is not speculating that this watch has the potential possibility of becoming a future classic.
I was not planning on buying another watch for a long while. In fact, I really did not think I would ever want to buy anything else (of substance) after getting the Speedy.
But you all are a bad influence. And here I am.
I fell like now would be a good time to buy one, if I'm going to buy one. But I am just a bit hesitant now that I have found out about this known issue.
Not sure if it is enough of a deterrent though.
I want this watch because I wanted something that I didn't have to worry about. Something I could bump the crystal on and then jump in the pool with. I'm always so careful with my Speedy. I don't baby it, but I'm also very mindful of it when I have it on. Careful that I don't brush it against anything and even taking it off when it is bath time for the kids. I know it is good to 50M...but still...
I wanted a polar dial 16570 to be my GMT watch when the time came but those are creeping up in price and again I want something that I hopefully wont feel the need to baby.
So the Tudor GMT just sort of checked all the boxes for me.

+1 for intensely handsome yet fun go-anywhere-do-anything watch. Love mine
 
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Has anyone sent theirs in for the date wheel service recently? I need to send mine in but I really don't want to part with it for the 3+ months I've heard it takes, at least during the pandemic :/
 
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Has anyone sent theirs in for the date wheel service recently? I need to send mine in but I really don't want to part with it for the 3+ months I've heard it takes, at least during the pandemic :/
I think 3 months is probably about right worst case from what I have heard. I need to take mine in before the warranty has run out in January.
On the positive side it will feel like getting a new watch when it comes back. I might even use it has an excuse to buy something new beforehand 馃榾
 
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The fact is the overwhelming vast majority of watches do not appreciate or even hold their value when you take into account service costs every 5-10 years. In most cases we just delude ourselves (and our other halves 馃榾). I include myself in this.

The 拢3k Tudor we bought may still worth the same after 20yrs but the 拢1-2k it has cost us to maintain will mostly not be recouped.

The exceptions to this rule are either ones that cannot be predicted so are lucky purchases or ones that are generally unavailable at RRP unless you are well-connected.
It's all illusions isn't it really - good argument. I bought a bmw m3 csl years ago - sold it on recently for 拢18k profit - but of course - the services etc probably meant I broke even...馃槈
 
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I think there are a few of us out there - that love watches or love cars or both! You know, but we can't afford to buy something expensive that is going to lose a lot of value - we have to be fairly shrewd.
 
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You know, but we can't afford to buy something expensive that is going to lose a lot of value - we have to be fairly shrewd.

You only lose value if you sell it. Solution = don't sell it.
 
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I think there are a few of us out there - that love watches or love cars or both! You know, but we can't afford to buy something expensive that is going to lose a lot of value - we have to be fairly shrewd.
I agree and include myself in that description but, although I started the car analogy, it has its limitations.

Personally when I buy a car I do so knowing, inevitably I am going to sell it at some future date when it has outlived it usefulness to me. With that in mind I do my homework and try to buy at the right price a car that has historic data showing it will keep as much value as possible.

When I buy a watch I do so intending never to sell it so the decision is different. I buy what I like and will love to wear. I still want to buy at the best price I can and do my homework on authenticity, market prices and desirability to ensure on the day I buy it I am getting a fair deal and value for money (whatever that is).Then I hope it will keep some value in the unlikely event I do sell (never sold one yet!) but this process is all only educated guesswork.
 
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Mine had the date wheel problem three months after purchase. This was in 2019. Was gone for
almost five months while Tudor scrambled to fix it and the (probably) hundreds of others that
also came in. As soon as I could, I flipped it. End of story. A beautiful watch but many other
great GMT's out there.