What do you think about this 1960 Omega jumbo in gold. As you can see the lugs have been ‘soldered’ left above and right under. Seller is asking €3200. What would be a decent proposal for a jumbo in 18 carat gold in this state?
Thanks a lot, Stephan

 

It’s a pass from me. Patience and find a better example.

 

You'll get more responses if you post this in the Vintage section.

I don't know this reference but €3200 is extremely overpriced in my opinion. This isn't a sought after model. For a little more, you can get an all gold arrowhead 2852 Constellation. See below example (just an example, not my listing).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3950890465...bU2UCWOSDe&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPYPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

 

I’m a fan for bigger but vintage omegas. 34-35mm are just to small on my wrist.
Thanks a lot, Stephan

 

Looks really Sharp though price compare to condition is a bit on a higher end

 

Hard pass for me. I’m not one to spend $3000 on a watch. Buy what you love, but I surely wouldn’t pay that for a watch that reminded me that I did every time I looked at my wrist because of a soldered lug. As @Zman4eva stated, you can find a far better example for the money.

 

I too have reservations about the hallmark being on the caseback exterior. That is not normally seen on Swiss cases, I can't think of another in fact. The ref number on the papers looks like local production, S American maybe? It sounds like the case has been messed about too, not good, if it is local production it may have weak hollow lugs which would explain the damage and need for repair.

Whatever, it is overpriced by a factor of two at least. €1000-1500 will buy you a much nicer solid gold 30T2/26X model, to be fair jumbos are harder to find, but not impossible. There are threads about various jumbo models on here, maybe take a look at that, though don't expect many to be much bigger than 36-37mm, nothing was back then unless for specialist professional use like the SM300 and Speedmaster.

 

As others have mentioned, the hallmarks on the exterior make think this is a recased watch. Not even an american Omega case, but a generic jeweler recase.

My eyes popped wide open when I saw the asking price even when I thought it had an actual Omega case. Definitely steer away.

 

En la foto no se ve la "helvética grande"

 

How do you mean?

 

Literal translation:

In the photo you can't see the "big Swiss”. Referring to the Jumbo reference, if I’m not mistaken.

 

A little too much of this.

 

See the Swiss hallmark? Can you, I can't.

EDIT, I misunderstood, I agree that it is not there.

 

In the OPs watch, I can see an example of a Poinçon de maître (marteau sans manche or hammer without handle.).

The number appears to be 478 (?) which does not appear in the Swiss "Liste des poinçons de maître collectifs" dated 2002.

 

I was referring to the Head of Helvetia ( his Helvetica Grande I think), I misunderstood the Spanish to mean he could see it. I realise he meant that you can't, that and the poincon number being off the scale is why I don't think it is a Swiss case, at least not a legit one. We don't often (ever?) see externally marked Swiss made Omega cases so it is unusual to say the least. It is a shame we can't see what is on the other side of the caseback, that might shed some light on it. In any event it is a watch to avoid since it is damaged and overpriced.

I note the OP has 2 separate threads running about this watch which may lead to some deja vu and confusion. Noobs do this often at present and it isn't ideal.

 

As a jeweler/gemologist by trade, I would advise totally against acquiring such a butchered watch. The seasoned members that suggested spending such a sum on something totally desirable, like an 18K arrowhead pie pan, are looking out for you