Thoughts on this Ómega seamaster 1955

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Dan59700

·Jul 1, 2017

Hi guys !

I have been reading some posts here and I decide to make mine.

I wanted some advice about this pretty ómega seamaster caliber 471, 19 jewels, reference no 2802-5SC, produced in 1955.

It's a gift for someone close to me so I don't want to make a mistake buying something wrong or giving too much money for it.

It appears that it has been all serviced, comes with a certificate of the company who is selling it (the serial numbers matches the year I said), gold capped case and 33mm diameter.

Any thoughts? A good watch to offer or better to run away from?

Thanks a lot for your answers!

 

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ConElPueblo

·Jul 1, 2017

Run.

The case has been furiously overpolished, the crown is incorrect and the dial has been repainted.

 

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Dan59700

·Jul 1, 2017

Many thanks mate!

I will add a post with my request for a vintage watch of 1955, if anyone knows about one let me know!

 

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Foo2rama

·Jul 1, 2017·Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...

What exactly are you looking for and for whom? We might be able to point you in the right direction.

 

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Dan59700

·Jul 1, 2017

I'm looking for a nice watch of 1955 to offer to my Dad for its retirement.

Why Omega? Just because I like the history of the brand and I think it would be very nice on my dad's wrist.

But I saw an IWC, all gold, that looked very good too but it was an 1961 sadly

 

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Foo2rama

·Jul 1, 2017·Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...

You will be looking for a serial number between 14 and 15 million in Omega. But without an extract of the archives from Omega it's impossible to date a watch to 1955.

Also think size... 34mm is on the small size of men's watches in today's style. If he's a big guy you might want to think about sizes.

Finding a good looking gold watch at a good price is hard enough without narrowing it down to a year. You can find affordably priced or good looking... they rarely intersect in watches that are original in good condition. I've been looking for my father for about 4 months and nothing has really jumped, and I gave up on the year requirement across all brands.

If you want to know in detail what's wrong with this watch message me on the forum and I can give you some pointers.

 

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Edward53

·Jul 1, 2017

Dan, where are you located? It makes it easier to recommend watches if we know because if, say, you are in Europe, anything in the USA will obviously cost you a lot more. I hope your Dad's retirement is still some time away because looking for a good birth year Omega in a hurry without knowing what you are doing is extremely risky. Is gold or gold cap an essential requirement?

 

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Dan59700

·Jul 1, 2017

I know I'm not the only one after something like that and thank you both for your info.

I'm located in France but sincerely it's not a problem for me to buy something in the US for example if it's really what I'm looking for.

I also know that finding a birth year watch is complicated but we never know and it's why all your posts are interesting.

Indeed the size is important too, but 36 diameter who makes more or less 41mm from the both sides will be great on his wrist (but still small yes)

At least, gold or gold cap isn't an essential requirement, I just think he would enjoy it.

 

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omegamax

·Oct 19, 2023

Well I think I have one dated to 1955 Omega Seamaster with cal 471 with 19 jewels. My case on the other hand is G6250 which I cannot find any specific matching details. So am I a bit stump as well.

 

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Dr No

·Oct 19, 2023

You've acquired an American equivalent of the original poster's Seamaster. Fortunately it's original, unlike the op's.

Nice acquisition. Congrats!

 

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X350 XJR

·Oct 19, 2023·Vintage Omega Aficionado

Dr No

You've acquired an American equivalent of the original poster's Seamaster. Fortunately it's original, unlike the op's.

Nice acquisition. Congrats!

Actually, no.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/try-to-figure-out-what-is-this-omega.164718/

 

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padders

·Oct 20, 2023·Oooo subtitles!

omegamax

Well I think I have one dated to 1955 Omega Seamaster with cal 471 with 19 jewels. My case on the other hand is G6250 which I cannot find any specific matching details. So am I a bit stump as well.

Well you have a 1955 Rest of the World movement in a U.S. domestic case ie a transplant. A US market movement would have 17j.

 

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omegamax

·Oct 20, 2023

Seriously, I like to believe that my 471 is an illegal alien from Switzerland that somehow sneaked under the radar undetected and upon 'activation event' got its identity through an elaboration of identity shift into what we know now to be the G6250 case! 😀 Definitely a one of kind. Where are all my other brothers? Is there a thread for that?

Is this worth any value or should I donate this 1955 RoW wonder to the Goodwill?

Edited: Oct 20, 2023

 

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JimInOz

·Oct 20, 2023·Melbourne Australia

It's an Omega movement in an Omega commissioned case.
The fact they came from different parents is of no matter if you know the watch for what it is (or isn't).

Just wear it and enjoy it.

 

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Dr No

·Oct 20, 2023

X350 XJR

Actually, no.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/try-to-figure-out-what-is-this-omega.164718/

Case/dial/hands are original and match, though?

Art

 

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padders

·Oct 20, 2023·Oooo subtitles!

Art, your contributions are unfailingly charming, knowledgeable and valuable, but I have to know, do you actually look like Dr No or is it just a cool pic you like.

I gots to know!!!!!

 

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X350 XJR

·Oct 20, 2023·Vintage Omega Aficionado

Dr No

Case/dial/hands are original and match, though?

Art

Again, no. A 19-jewel cal 471 does not belong in a reference G6250. Did you read the thread I quoted?

 

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Dr No

·Oct 21, 2023

X350 XJR

Again, no. A 19-jewel cal 471 does not belong in a reference G6250. Did you read the thread I quoted?

Yes, I read the linked thread yesterday. I was unsure about the movement from the get-go because dimensions looked odd compared to the case. It's the case, hands and dial that appear intact and correct. That's the nub of my question.

Best,

Art