Thoughts on Constellation 168.005?

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Very interested in purchasing this pie-pan Constellation. It passes my amateur checks, but just want some reassurance from the pros. Cal: 561 with 2071xxxx sn. Any red flags? Asking price is ~$2900 USD

Thanks!

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Looks to be a rather nice gold cap dogleg in pretty good condition.

Do you have anymore pics, outer case back inner case back, movement?

I personally think the cost is at least $1200 too rich but if you’re buying from a dealer you will pay a premium.
 
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Looks to be a rather nice gold cap dogleg in pretty good condition.

Do you have anymore pics, outer case back inner case back, movement?

I personally think the cost is at least $1200 too rich but if you’re buying from a dealer you will pay a premium.

Fully agree. It’s even the date version, which runs a little cheaper than the 14900s/167.005s without it. This is nice, but not worth much more than half the asking.
 
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When I saw the asking price, I initially assumed it was a gold case. 🤦
 
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$2900 for of gold capped Connie, that's outrageous! I'd pass on that one, as that price is at least twice as much as it's worth.
 
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This is an attractive watch with an unattractive price. Not sure if the owner really wanted to part ways with the watch.
 
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The watch itself looks great. Nice clean dial, lovely sharp case with not much wear on the gold.
But yeah...that price...yikes!
 
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Not that I'm complaining, on the contrary, I'm glad our perception is able to keep prices in check and make things affordable - but nice example so I don't think the price matters all that much if you can afford it

You can indeed find it for half that price but it's only possible if you spend 2-3 hours every day looking at watches like a maniac 😀 So if it's going to take 1 months for you to find an example this good, it's 60-90 hours of work - let's say you make $100 an hour working, than it'll definitely not be worth obsessing for a better price
 
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It is a nice one with original crown, onyx inserts and small marker at 3. You can offer down to $2000 because it is the right price for it at this time.
4 years ago, I paid $1800 for this one.
If you wait for $1200. You may grow old without a nice Constellation on your wrist.


PS.The lug holes are round, not oval. That means it has not been used much.
 
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Great, thanks for the feedback everyone. Yeah, I've been looking for about ~5 months and haven't really found a pie-pan under $3k. I've been tempted with other references (mostly posted on this forum) for $1-2k, but I have a nice looking Seamaster DeVille that looks pretty similar to those, so I've been holding out. I don't mind holding out longer, but agree with the sentiment that waiting for the perfect price might mean never having one on your first lol. Understood it's overpriced, but seems like the $1500 range is maybe a unicorn. I like the idea of offering $2000.
 
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It is a nice one with original crown, onyx inserts and small marker at 3. You can offer down to $2000 because it is the right price for it at this time.
4 years ago, I paid $1800 for this one.
If you wait for $1200. You may grow old without a nice Constellation on your wrist.


PS.The lug holes are round, not oval. That means it has not been used much.

I tend to agree with Hoi. Especially if you buy it with the aim to wear and enjoy it, I would be ok for up to 2k USD as well. You may overpay a bit or make a small loss when selling it in a few years time, but you've had the chance to enjoy it in the meantime.
 
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Being fairly new to this lark, I'm quite curious about perceived value and sometimes a little puzzled. I keep seeing comments on Omega forums about watches being over-priced, but I hardly ever see any for sale at the prices they are supposedly worth.. Maybe it's because I'm in the UK and am either looking at UK examples or unconsciously factoring in the taxes to have them sent here.

At the end of the day, if 90% of watches for sale are going for a particular price and they are selling, then isn't that their value? As with anything else you can hunt around / wait for a "bargain", but it might never come and the choice will be far more restricted.

For example, if I'm looking for a c-case stainless steel Constellation in nice condition (sharp case, clean dial), I'm finding it very difficult to find any that are much under £1000 ($1200), and most are a little more. Is that overpriced?

Omega prices at least seem half-consistent and there are enough examples out there to provide a good sample. I'm finding it much difficult with other brands (e.g. vintage Longines, IWC, Girard Perregaux) to figure out what the actual value of a given model is, in some cases because the particular model I'm lookng at is actually pretty rare so there's very little to go on.
 
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Being fairly new to this lark, I'm quite curious about perceived value and sometimes a little puzzled. I keep seeing comments on Omega forums about watches being over-priced, but I hardly ever see any for sale at the prices they are supposedly worth.. Maybe it's because I'm in the UK and am either looking at UK examples or unconsciously factoring in the taxes to have them sent here.

At the end of the day, if 90% of watches for sale are going for a particular price and they are selling, then isn't that their value? As with anything else you can hunt around / wait for a "bargain", but it might never come and the choice will be far more restricted.

For example, if I'm looking for a c-case stainless steel Constellation in nice condition (sharp case, clean dial), I'm finding it very difficult to find any that are much under £1000 ($1200), and most are a little more. Is that overpriced?

Omega prices at least seem half-consistent and there are enough examples out there to provide a good sample. I'm finding it much difficult with other brands (e.g. vintage Longines, IWC, Girard Perregaux) to figure out what the actual value of a given model is, in some cases because the particular model I'm lookng at is actually pretty rare so there's very little to go on.

It's a good and valid point and one that is raised quite often.

I think the members ( myself included ) saying that certain watches are over priced are those that have been collecting for a good while and have both experienced the general price rise for vintage and developed a keen eye for the market and condition issues.

Those with patience can also be rewarded in this hobby by holding out for the same reference at the same price as others but in better condition. This is a skill honed over years and years of viewing watches, but one which eventually leads to an ability to quickly be able to make a pretty accurate call regarding price/quality. I find it useful when buying for and building a broad collection rather than when searching for an exact version of a specific ref.

So it can be that these experienced members are quick to say 'overpriced' when a newer collector will say 'fair market value'. I know for myself when I call overpriced it is probably because my experience tells me that if I hold out I could find a better/much better example for the same money or less
 
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I see a lot of "experienced" collectors who cry overpriced but they don't see the difference in price between a spotless dial and a dial with tiny white spots, a dial with black onyx inserts or black painted markers, a small marker at 3 or nothing. They don't even know the price of an original 10 sided crown!.
And this one may be $800 cheaper than the OP's but not many ppl want to buy it.