Thoughts between Sea & Speedmaster

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I don’t hate the bracelet, I love it. I enjoy the HEV as well. Those are what makes it a Seamaster.
I think people who say they don’t like the bracelet probably don’t own it or like to follow the herd.

The design is dated in its appearance with the lack of taper makes a chunky watch even more bulky is my general thoughts on the bracelet.
 
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Totally agree. I was indifferent about the HEV before purchase, but now think it’s integral to the Seamaster design.

would look odd without it.

agree it would look odd. A quick look on Amazon and you’ll see plenty ‘homages’ with out it. Saying that the previous generation & even Planet Ocean HEV are less pronounced than the current ‘Reece’s pieces’
 
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agree it would look odd. A quick look on Amazon and you’ll see plenty ‘homages’ with out it. Saying that the previous generation & even Planet Ocean HEV are less pronounced than the current ‘Reece’s pieces’
I actually prefer the current shape of the HEV.

Nothing I don’t like about this version of the SMP tbh. Just feels and looks great on my 6.5” wrist.
 
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I think you made a decision: a 12hr counter on a chrono is a must. The no date is visually more appealing. Hand wind is also a plus.
 
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I don’t hate the bracelet, I love it. I enjoy the HEV as well. Those are what makes it a Seamaster.
I think people who say they don’t like the bracelet probably don’t own it or like to follow the herd.

It’s heavy and doesn’t taper and the clasp is huge. None of that makes me hate it, but neither does it endear it to me. My issue with the bracelet (and the reason I ultimately sold my SMP300) was that the clasp failed on me while the watch was on my wrist. Omega replaced the clasp, and then the replacement also failed. Just bad luck, I know—a known issue for a few years but most people haven’t had such problems. But for me, it seemed like a sign that it was time to move on to a watch with a stronger clasp design. No fun using a screwdriver to remove a watch from your wrist.
 
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Not sure this is any help to your decision, but... I bought a (20 year old) Speedmaster Moonwatch first -- it was an iconic, versatile watch that I had been admiring for a year. A few years later I added my Seamaster. These are my two favorite watches, fun to take traveling, and at least one of them will fit almost any sporty or social situation. Here they both are on Uncle Seiko bracelets -- really comfortable and I like the subtle taper. But I swap in canvas, Nato, leather, and silicone straps to mix things up.
 
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To be candid, you sound like someone in a shop that’s about to close for the night and you’ve got it in your head that you need or want to buy something before it closes. I only recognize this because I’ve been that guy, years ago.

Just because the dance is almost over, doesn’t mean you have to ask someone to dance who you don’t want to dance with. None of the watches you’re considering are going anywhere. You can always pick one up.

I like to build a small stable of watches one watch at a time. Buy one watch you love, or think you’ll love, and wear the crap out of it. When you get the itch for another, you’ll know, and you’ll know if your current watch stays or goes. If it stays, your next watch can complement it but be different.

And like the IWC Mark XV I’ve just bought for the 3rd or 4th time in 20+ years, if you aren’t fully enamored, set it free. If it was meant to be, it will come back to you. Pretty sure Sting was writing about a Speedmaster…
 
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To be candid, you sound like someone in a shop that’s about to close for the night and you’ve got it in your head that you need or want to buy something before it closes. I only recognize this because I’ve been that guy, years ago.

Just because the dance is almost over, doesn’t mean you have to ask someone to dance who you don’t want to dance with. None of the watches you’re considering are going anywhere. You can always pick one up.

I like to build a small stable of watches one watch at a time. Buy one watch you love, or think you’ll love, and wear the crap out of it. When you get the itch for another, you’ll know, and you’ll know if your current watch stays or goes. If it stays, your next watch can complement it but be different.

And like the IWC Mark XV I’ve just bought for the 3rd or 4th time in 20+ years, if you aren’t fully enamored, set it free. If it was meant to be, it will come back to you. Pretty sure Sting was writing about a Speedmaster…

Maybe/ maybe not.

But I only want a small 3-4 watch collection (2 of those spots already gone) this current watch is the one I've bought to commemorate my 2nd child. With the way Omega prices are increasing (not as fast as my wages) then theirs a point where you so no more (I'm possible looking at you current Speedy)
 
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Tough decision! I am fortunate to have both, a hesalite 3861 and an older SMP300, if I had to have only one it would be the SMP300 but I have a back story with it so its hard to be objective. The speedy definitely grows on you. When I first got it (a year ago) I was a little disappointed, also thought that it was too big, but I stuck it out and I genuinely admire it now, its a great watch. I echo the previous comments about buying on the bracelet, always a good idea. I know that the SMP bracelet gets a lot of flack but I really like it, I've never taken it off the watch, its just super comfortable and fits with the design. Good luck with whatever you choose.
 
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Pretty much decided on the green Seamaster, retried on yesterday and for me it fits better than the Speedy, (as much as I like the manual wind/ history and chrono function) I do use the timing of a diving bezel more, and the large luminous plots. Definitely on the rubber and don't get on with the bracelet on this one. IMHO the green colourway is subdued and the best version out.
 
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I have both 3861 sapphire and Tokyo seamaster and love both. Both are great every day watches. Depends where you live. If you have heavy rain than I wouldn’t recommend the speedy. Seamaster is great for rainy weather. Or heavy extracurricular activities.

seamaster bracelet is very clunky and thick. Found myself wearing the speedy more cause of it.
 
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As an alternative to the SMPc, have you considered the Seamaster 300? Great watch with a fantastic flat link bracelet.
 
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As an alternative to the SMPc, have you considered the Seamaster 300? Great watch with a fantastic flat link bracelet.

Thanks whilst I admire the watch especially the newer version, I find it too similar styling wise to my BB58, plus not a fan of the straight lugs, much prefer lyre style from Omega
 
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Now I know these queries are somewhat boring & yes come down to personal tastes etc.

Having owned the current 3861 Speedy for a short period (moving it on for something else I really wanted), & also having concerns that it wore too large and not a great fit on the bracelet.

I'm now hankering after another one (annoyingly prices having risen) but feel a 12hr counter on a chrono is a must (after enjoying the chrono functions) no date is visually more appealing, being hand wind is also a plus.

The green Seamaster 300 has caught my attention, oddly as not been a fan of the current 300SMPs (whilst understanding their technical marvels) I can see why they have their fans. However I've only tried they bracelet versions on previously, my local AD had the green on rubber & I must say I was smitten by it. Oddly chunkier than the Speedy & the same size, visually the larger bezel made it look a better fit. I liked the colour scheme, plus that its dark although unsure if green is a fad and will look dated in a few years. Also never been a fan of the HEV but kinda glossed over it when on.

Unsure if to go back to the Speedy, but will my previous issues bug me again, or go with the Seamaster, although I have a diver in collection & ideally (crazy I know) want a small 2-4 watch collection covering most basis.

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so I own both watches but I wear my seamaster all the time it’s a comfortable watch I don’t even know it’s there, and I can swim with it run with it jump with it, and has the most comfortable watch to wear with my speed master I catch myself not wearing it around water because of the pushers but both bracelets I feel are very comfortable. I would go with something you haven’t had before. Try the seamaster get it on the secondary market and if you don’t like it sell it and you won’t lose as much buying a brand new.
 
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Currently the green Seamaster is ahead but only 60%, their is still a strong pull for the Speedy. I may wait until the new year to see if any newer models come out.

Although waiting for few quotes on part ex the Monaco possible against the Seamaster so who knows