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M'Bob
·This thread needs a little bump:
1964 left, 1965 right:
1964 left, 1965 right:
The Unpolished-Pre-Moon-Straight-Lug-Speedy thread : Show off your facets
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!ps for anyone who bothers to look back through this thread, one participant, Omeguy, turned out to be a banned multiple username repeat offender who has now been shown the door so you should maybe take his opinions with a pinch of salt.
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KeyWestPaw
·gorgeous examples.
im still looking for my first, lots of offerings, i hope i can find one in this condition.
im still looking for my first, lots of offerings, i hope i can find one in this condition.
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Redwes25
·Been searching on and off for a straight lug speedmaster and have used this thread as a reference on the cases but I thought this video from Omega was pretty interesting. Honestly, don't think it settles the debate but thought was a useful piece of information in case others hadn't seen it.
ETA - Go to 4:25 point to see discussion of what Omega currently thinks on how straight lugs were produced originally.
ETA - Go to 4:25 point to see discussion of what Omega currently thinks on how straight lugs were produced originally.
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KeyWestPaw
·Dream watches.
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jaegodylan
·Remnants of facets on this battle worn 105.003-65 of mine.
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Been searching on and off for a straight lug speedmaster and have used this thread as a reference on the cases but I thought this video from Omega was pretty interesting. Honestly, don't think it settles the debate but thought was a useful piece of information in case others hadn't seen it.
ETA - Go to 4:25 point to see discussion of what Omega currently thinks how straight were produced originally.
Good find!
I think that reinforces that the -64 had no bevel originally, but it is ambiguous since he namechecks the FOIS (which is based AFAIK on a late iteration 2998) while he is discussing it. I do not believe at all that every straight lug had no bevel. If that is what he is saying, then I think he is plain wrong, and admitting that Omega got the FOIS horribly wrong, but if he was saying that the new EW has no facet since the original -64 had none, then that sounds perfectly reasonable.
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eugeneandresson
·Factory finishing on a 105.003-65, showing the lightly brushed facet.
105.003-64 lugs look nothing like this. Anybody have a -63 they can add?
105.003-64 lugs look nothing like this. Anybody have a -63 they can add?
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Dash1
·105.003-64 lugs look nothing like this. Anybody have a -63 they can add?
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eugeneandresson
·Fairly sure it's only the 105.003-65 that had bevels. All other straight lug Speedmasters did not have distinct bevels. The -65 was also a one (sub) reference only case maker.
Thanks for the info re the single-ref case maker. There is still quite some variance in eg 2998 cases. My own examples are not vast, but my 2998-3 and 105.002 are very similar, and different to numerous eg 2998-5s that I have seen. Would still love to see a 105.003-63!
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Redwes25
·Good find!
I think that reinforces that the -64 had no bevel originally, but it is ambiguous since he namechecks the FOIS (which is based AFAIK on a late iteration 2998) while he is discussing it. I do not believe at all that every straight lug had no bevel. If that is what he is saying, then I think he is plain wrong, and admitting that Omega got the FOIS horribly wrong, but if he was saying that the new EW has no facet since the original -64 had none, then that sounds perfectly reasonable.
That is kind of what I was thinking. -64 had a very clear no bevel. I don't think we can say all straight lugs didn't have a bevel as too much evidence of it but the once that have a pronounce facet like the FOIS were likely polished by Omega.
One interesting thing though is the video points to a 2915 with no facet/bevel after looking at an "untouched example". Honestly, I have not focused on 2915s in my search as they are above my price range and the number of 2915s that haven't seen a polishing wheel at this point have to be close to zero. Though I wonder if they didn't have a bevel/facet.
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TJH
·Been searching on and off for a straight lug speedmaster and have used this thread as a reference on the cases but I thought this video from Omega was pretty interesting. Honestly, don't think it settles the debate but thought was a useful piece of information in case others hadn't seen it.
ETA - Go to 4:25 point to see discussion of what Omega currently thinks on how straight lugs were produced originally.
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marco
·Interesting that they claim the facets were added during service, I suppose polishing out a ding on one lug would make it look asymmterical so they did all four...
More light needs to be thrown on this issue.
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Redwes25
·Surely that could be the only reason to do this work. If this was done regularly there would be far more examples of " applied" facets. I doubt if this happened as a matter of course.
More light needs to be thrown on this issue.
Check out first post in this thread. A number of really nice 2998s with the facet and when you watch that video sounds like Omega is saying that those are all wrong and we’re polished that way due to Omega service.
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