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You're absolutely right. However just like that gone thread on "Bullies", a topic such as this in inevitably going to encourage major disagreements...the very sort that you claim you would like to see avoided.



I think this and M'Bob's viewpoint sums things up quite well. 👍
I vehemently disagree and strangely enough I think most understand where I am coming from. Nothing wrong with fun but fun for one may not be fun for another. Respect has much more value than fun.
 
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There in lies the rub, we are playing in their sandpit which is a multi national group of players consisting of a hugely diverse group of vocations, cultures, ages, religions, educational levels and interests etc. ( sorry @STANDY , we might have to make a special category for you😉)

Cheers

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That’s my category
And you city slickers probably get your meat from the supermarket.......😗


And your fish from a fish market......😗

 
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When I joined this forum I had a couple of awkward situations with older members, but according to the rules I didn't do anything wrong. It's all part of life and I'm not mad at anyone.
At first it was not clear to me why are they behaving like this with new people but I quickly realized that some things are constantly recurring and even started to get on my nerves. I was never rude to anyone, especially members newer than me. The only time where I was a bit harsh is the recent thread with a member who persistently forced fake dials, just because he got too many answers in which it is clear that people on this forum are not interested in such things, which I apologized to.

I don't think it would be bad for us, relatively new members, to help the newer members with their questions, so old members will not need to write things written long ago and for us new ones it is a good eye training after all. 😗
 
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I vehemently disagree and strangely enough I think most understand where I am coming from. Nothing wrong with fun but fun for one may not be fun for another. Respect has much more value than fun.

Like I said in another thread...we will see.

Obviously your premise is admirable but this is the real world, and thread topics such as this and the deleted one yesterday are going to provoke more than anything else. As mentioned, the sensitivity level is at an all time high. Being a victim is "in" and as Dan mentioned yesterday the word "bully" is thrown around way too much when the person complaining may merely need to take the same advice as you point out, and realize this is an international forum and thicker skin might be needed if a sense of humor is not possible.
 
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Like I said in another thread...we will see.

Obviously your premise is admirable but this is the real world, and thread topics such as this and the deleted one yesterday are going to provoke more than anything else. As mentioned, the sensitivity level is at an all time high. Being a victim is "in" and as Dan mentioned yesterday the word "bully" is thrown around way too much when the person complaining may merely need to take the same advice as you point out, and realize this is an international forum and thicker skin might be needed if a sense of humor is not possible.

I disagree and respectfully request the moderators delete a post when necessary and not the thread. Strangely enough I do have faith in the majority.
 
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Kindness and civility seem out of fashion everywhere at the moment, not just in the halls of OF. It is hard not to feel that basic manners might also belong in the same bygone decades as many of our vintage watches. If only old things could also preserve old customs.

Putting aside the near-impossible task of regulating numerous subjective feelings into an objective standard (I think they call it 'Community Rules' 😁), I would like to follow up on one specific aspect of the OP's initial post. Everything I have learned about watches (not much, admittedly) has been bestowed, usually for free, by others. It seems fully bizarre to me that some people then become protective of that inherited knowledge and refuse to pass it along (and that's before you even get into the aggression that can often accompany the withering response, done largely for the benefit of the honking gallery). I find that approach incoherent and an unbecoming way to honour the education you yourself were likely given gratis as a noob.
 
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I disagree and respectfully request the moderators delete a post when necessary and not the thread. Strangely enough I do have faith in the majority.

Huh?
 
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While I agree with the general sentiment that we could all be a little kinder and more patient, I think it bears noting that many of those who posted responses HAD been kind and patient with the OP and tried in vain to give him the hint that some of his threads and posts were not being well received. I am reminded of something that I heard about a fellow classmate during my first few weeks of law school: “If you don’t know who the class ass is by the end of the first month, it’s you.”
 
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What I am saying is that I don't believe the majority want to play in a toxic environment. I think it would be better to understand and maybe change our behaviour than to destroy what has been a fabulous playground. After all we are in the majority grown ups with some expectation to act that way.
 
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maybe change our behaviour than to destroy what has been a fabulous playground.

I really don’t think things have gotten so bitter, contentious, or antagonistic that the fabulous playground is in any danger of being destroyed.
 
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toxic environment

And here is why there is going to be the inevitable discussions in a thread like this. Your definition of "toxic" is not going to be embraced by all...similar to others' definition of "bully".
 
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The sensitivity level is approaching an all time high .... <---- is on point

and that's also the case in real life. a lot of people expect a praise for the most obvious things and feel deeply offended if they don't get it.

also i think the general quality of postings (vintage section) is on all time low (wasn't the case when i started here). most are "let's bash a watch on auction" or "oh look what i bought and i hope it's correct" or a hidden "for sale " thread. in the past we had some really great research or really educational threads. sometimes they had hard fights but in the end the majority came to a conclusion and nobody was hurt.
the fun was never missed.
 
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The sensitivity level is approaching an all time high .... <---- is on point

and that's also the case in real life. a lot of people expect a praise for the most obvious things and feel deeply offended if they don't get it.

also i think the general quality of postings (vintage section) is on all time low (wasn't the case when i started here). most are "let's bash a watch on auction" or "oh look what i bought and i hope it's correct" or a hidden "for sale " thread. in the past we had some really great research or really educational threads. sometimes they had hard fights but in the end the majority came to a conclusion and nobody was hurt.
the fun was never missed.

You raise a very astute and interesting point: as these fora are no doubt a microcosm of the culture at large, perhaps the degradation being seen is reflective of the state of our current world?
 
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Current mood in the room over here:

Serves it right, it squeaked at him........
 
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You raise a very astute and interesting point: as these fora are no doubt a microcosm of the culture at large, perhaps the degradation being seen is reflective of the state of our current world?

I couldn't agree more. This has become a victim's culture spawned by the internet and social media.
 
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I couldn't agree more. This has become a victim's culture spawned by the internet and social media.
Don't think that is what he is saying. I think he is supporting my point about it is strange times we live in with COVID.
 
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You raise a very astute and interesting point: as these fora are no doubt a microcosm of the culture at large, perhaps the degradation being seen is reflective of the state of our current world?



A pic is better than 100000 words
 
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If people have a reasonably well-developed radar about other members, which comes from spending time here, then posts that are primarily aimed at those members should be allowed more leeway than posts directed at unknown and new members. The way you write a post should involve judgement on your part: More familiar language, even banter should be OK, when you know the person. When you don't know the person, be more polite, formal, and careful about the way you write. That's pretty much the case in the real (e.g. business) world and I think similar guidelines could work here.