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gbesq
·You’ll have to pry that chair out of my cold dead hands
I’ll always defend the right to throw chair. Geraldo may not agree but I think it is in the Constitution
The end of wearing an expensive watch
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Dan S
·I’ll always defend the right to throw chair. Geraldo may not agree but I think it is in the Constitution
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UncleBuck
··understands the decision making hierarchyWell besides joining OF and posting 200 times.
"Stops violent criminals from selling their booty on OF!"
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Tony C.
··Ωf Jury memberN/A
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wrist time
·With all this talk about active shooter here is a video with an expert on what to do in those situations.
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JayBe
·Why did this have to become a gun debate, when there is such an interesting, telling chair throw? In any case, given the demonstrated aiming skills of the victim under stress, I think it's for the best that he didn't have a gun. 😗
I'm glad it seems to have turned out OK for everyone...except for the lady.
I'm glad it seems to have turned out OK for everyone...except for the lady.
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johnireland
·If the idea is to keep politics out of the OF, then, as innocent as the intentions of the OP probably were, I think the mods should lock this thread. On the other hand, it OF wants a thread where it can be a political free for all, then they should create that, let the members have at it. And don't set any limits on what can be said.
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorOn the other hand, it OF wants a thread where it can be a political free for all, then they should create that, let the members have at it. And don't set any limits on what can be said.
There are other, non-watch forums for that.
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The Father
·Took me a while
But scoured the web, here is the poor lass that lost her teeth
But scoured the web, here is the poor lass that lost her teeth
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UncleBuck
··understands the decision making hierarchyOn the other hand, it OF wants a thread where it can be a political free for all, then they should create that, let the members have at it. And don't set any limits on what can be said.
Joking aside, we aspire to be a gathering of watch collectors and we try to keep our forum heading in that general direction regardless of which sub-forum.
I applaud the effort and are grateful for my opportunity to share.
Discussions of watch theft are relevant to me, the politics and various points of guns, violence and beliefs are covered daily in the rest of our media.
I understand most positions of you honorable gentlemen.
(Honorable Gentleman or Honorable member was the byline of an original member, @seamonster, God rest his soul. He could give a woodpecker a headache.)
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ChiefMark
·A certain helplessness pervaded over common sense in the hideous Uvalde crime.
The Police are not - NOT - there to protect you. They exist to clean up the mess and write reports. Unless you are of such a position to warrant full-time personal police protection, the only person protecting you, is you.
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·Specifically, the very people sheeple say should be the only ones with firearms (police and military, genius plan, worked out well in the 30's) showed up and did - NOTHING. Sat around until all the kids were dead and couple border patrol guys showed up.
The Police are not - NOT - there to protect you. They exist to clean up the mess and write reports. Unless you are of such a position to warrant full-time personal police protection, the only person protecting you, is you.
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·The United States has more armed citizens than any other first world nation - and one of the highest rates of gun violence. Keeping in mind that mass shootings in the U.S. are a daily occurrence, please give us examples of publicized incidents of which you are aware in which a good samaritan armed citizen thwarted a would be mass shooting.
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·Another perspective on this would be that even law enforcement who go through rigorous training can make bad decisions. They struggle with the amount of force that should be applied or when to face a shooter head on. Even they make mistakes.
The idea that someone who was just robbed, with adrenaline pumping, and who took a gun safety course 7 years ago will make the right decisions…. I worry more about my 3 year old getting caught in a crossfire than some guy needing to fill out an insurance claim for his stolen Rolex.
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·So “To Protect And To Serve” means nothing? I know many members of law enforcement who would disagree with your assessment. They put their lives on the line for us every single day.
So while they put their lives at risk doing certain dangerous activities, most officers never draw their weapon. While the deterrent effect has value, and the police are necessary in a working society, they are simply not going to be there to protect you. You can dismiss that if you wish.
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Tony C.
··Ωf Jury memberLudicrous! To compare accurately, you would also have to remove the cities with the most dense populations from the other countries, as well, which would radically alter the outcome.
In terms of gun violence, the U.S. has a terrible record, by any reasonable standard.
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Dan S
·Some of these posts have really jumped the shark. The problem with threads like these is that you lose respect for certain members and can never really think of them the same way again. I recall this happening at the beginning of COVID also, when some members were downplaying it and calling it a conspiracy. Maybe it would be best to end this.
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gbesq
·Look at where that gun violence happens. First, fully 1/2 to 2/3 depending on the year of gun deaths are suicides. So let's say the low end, or 1/2. Look at what's left and you find that it's nearly all in a few zip codes. Zip codes where there are the strictest gun laws. It's been shown (not hard to find this) that if you remove the gang violence, or for that matter just remove the worst 10 cities in the US from the statistics, the US is, if I recall correctly, the 2nd SAFEST country on earth.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5801608/
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ChiefMark
·I'm out. Apparently, my belief that we are responsible for our own safety, and observing that we don't have a "gun violence" problem in our society, we have a culture problem in our society, is a no-no. This is why I try to ignore these threads. My mistake to join in.
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