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The dreaded combo: single-shoulder spring bars, and no. 6 end-links...

  1. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Jul 28, 2020

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    If there is a little gap between the endpiece and the watch, you could try a jewelers saw.

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  2. MCC Jul 28, 2020

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    This was the same advice I received from @oddboy a couple of years back when I had the same problem.

    It was a very good piece of advice, Simon Freese fixed it for me and probably saved me destroying the end links. Somehow he got the bars out in one piece and returned them to me with the watch.
     
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  3. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jul 28, 2020

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    I prefer a screw slotting file, but again there is potential to damage both the lugs of the case and the end links when you start cutting.

    Cheers, Al
     
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  4. M'Bob Jul 28, 2020

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    Thanks, great idea.
     
  5. SkunkPrince Jul 28, 2020

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    Just for grins, can you post a pic of the scene of the crime?
     
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  6. M'Bob Jul 28, 2020

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    Yup, can do it later. Thanks.
     
  7. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Jul 28, 2020

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    that’s what she said ::bleh::

    if you can just see the lever, try looping some dental floss (if you have teeth to floss and not dentures, thus dental floss around) and hook it around.
     
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  8. michael e Still learning. Jul 28, 2020

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    Has Achim said....
    Some old spring bars have a tab which is hard to see unless you turn the spring bar, also hidden by years of dirt.
     
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  9. M'Bob Jul 28, 2020

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    Thanks, I’m hoping this is this case. Will be a much easier solution if so.
     
  10. Dan S Jul 28, 2020

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    I don't know who would use a spring-bar like that with a bracelet, but I guess it's no dumber than using shoulder-less spring-bars.
     
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  11. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jul 28, 2020

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    Not sure if Omega used these, but they are common enough on vintage Omegas to make me think they did use them. I agree they are stupid, and make getting the bracelet off more difficult. They never look like the photos posted above - they are almost always so caked with crap you can't see the little handle. Sometimes the body cheese is so hardened that I have to split the bracelet, open the case, remove the movement, and chuck the case and bracelet in the ultrasonic to clean it out, just to be able to remove the bracelet...
     
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  12. michael e Still learning. Jul 28, 2020

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    Omega did definitely use them from new, the case I show is NOS but has been in my drawers for years, I have also seen them 100s of times before too on other Omega watches especially with the flat link bracelets.. I like to see them on an old Omega but I don't leave them on.
     
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  13. M'Bob Jul 28, 2020

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    When they’re lined up perfectly, and not crudded up, they actually work okay. But it’s almost never the case, so I think it’s a good idea, poorly executed from a design perspective.
     
  14. cristos71 Jul 28, 2020

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    I've had gold ones on 18kt flat link bracelets too, not sure if they are solid gold, but gold coloured anyway
     
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  15. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jul 28, 2020

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    The QR spring bars are great in straps designed for them, but in anything else...no thanks.
     
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  16. Evitzee Jul 28, 2020

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    Back in the 70's and 80's Patek Philippe used 18kt spring bars with the little 'handle', I doubt if they use them nowadays. On a watch like a PP that wouldn't get a lot of heavy wear they were easy to extract.
     
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  17. TexOmega Jul 28, 2020

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    Wrap some un-waxed floss around the springbar tightly, pull snugly on each end, pull down.
     
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  18. M'Bob Jul 28, 2020

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    The culprit:

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  19. SkunkPrince Jul 28, 2020

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    That outer bar is all fixed all the way?

    Al's advice is looking better and better.
     
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  20. JwRosenthal Jul 28, 2020

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    Are you skilled with a Dremel and cutting bit? I don’t have a steady enough hand to even attempt it on something like this without fear of taking out the lug, but I know some people who can. Just depends on your confidence.
     
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