Forums Latest Auctions Members

The dreaded combo: single-shoulder spring bars, and no. 6 end-links...

  1. M'Bob

    M'Bob Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    3,632
    Likes
    7,031
    Uggg. Any way to remove these without bending up a pair of $1200 end-links? Thanks.
     
  2. SkunkPrince

    SkunkPrince Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    705
    Likes
    621
    Take to your watchmaker!
     
    MCC likes this.
  3. M'Bob

    M'Bob Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    3,632
    Likes
    7,031
    Thanks, but he’s not in the same state, which means adding an additional $3500 to insurance if I can’t get the bracelet off myself.
     
  4. SkunkPrince

    SkunkPrince Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    705
    Likes
    621
    Find one closer?

    I feel for you but we all have to pay a stupid tax eventually... unless it wasn’t you who put those in?

    I personally never use those except on drilled lugs or buckles.
     
  5. SkunkPrince

    SkunkPrince Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    705
    Likes
    621
    Are these solid all the way across or can you see the narrower part and just can’t get in there?
     
  6. Dan S

    Dan S Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    7,440
    Likes
    16,935
    That's sounds pretty challenging and frustrating. I suppose the only access you have is via the slots, and presumably you have already tried to get a grip on the plunger that way. Sometimes you can compress it just with the friction from a spring-bar tool, which is sort of the brute force solution. Maybe one of the watchmakers on the forum has a more elegant approach.
     
    janice&fred and M'Bob like this.
  7. Rman

    Rman Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    2,153
    Likes
    7,863
    A jeweler could probably get in there with a foredom tool and a diamond bit and carefully drill through the bar.
    Somewhat risky I guess.
     
    M'Bob likes this.
  8. SkunkPrince

    SkunkPrince Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    705
    Likes
    621
    I was thinking if you have a Bergeon 6767 with the small fork or even an Omega-branded tool with a small fork, you can get a loupe and a very fine Arkansas stone and sharpen the tip of the tool enough to force it in that miniscule gap. Grease it with a tiny bit of Vaseline or similar.

    (If you've got the Bergeon and never looked, the pusher side is reversable to a small fork!)
     
    janice&fred and M'Bob like this.
  9. watchyouwant

    watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    2,298
    Likes
    2,941
    Did you turn the bar completely around to see, if it is one of those lever operated bars ? If not, you might have to break the tip of the bar. Good luck ! Achim
     
  10. JimInOz

    JimInOz "Helpful Hints from Heloise" of bracelet cleaning. Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    10,710
    Likes
    19,749
    A 180 screwdriver blade, sharpened to a fine edge.

    Wedge between the lug and the bar and jiggle until you get it down a bit then lever the bar inwards.

    Much harder to describe than to do myself. Had one last week and it worked out OK.
     
  11. JwRosenthal

    JwRosenthal Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    5,460
    Likes
    11,134
    I’ve done this with straps but never enlinks without the slot- ouch. A razor blade was the way I was able to creep it back enough to get it to pop out, but that was while compressing the leather as much as I could (didn’t want to cut a $100 strap).
    I make it a point now to look at every spring bar before I put it in- even if you separate them, they are like mice- one male always slips into the female cage.
     
    NT931 and M'Bob like this.
  12. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    17,891
    Likes
    37,826
    Step 1:

    Bar1.jpg

    Step 2:

    Bar2.jpg

    Fin
     
    janice&fred, Badwolf, MikiJ and 6 others like this.
  13. JwRosenthal

    JwRosenthal Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    5,460
    Likes
    11,134
    M'Bob likes this.
  14. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    17,891
    Likes
    37,826
    End links can be opened up easily without "destroying" them...
     
  15. M'Bob

    M'Bob Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    3,632
    Likes
    7,031
    No, wasn’t me. After 30 years of watch collecting, if I made that kind of mistake, then I deserve the grief.
     
  16. M'Bob

    M'Bob Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    3,632
    Likes
    7,031
    yeah, can see just the tip.
     
  17. M'Bob

    M'Bob Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    3,632
    Likes
    7,031
    Optimally, hoping to do this without bending them, despite the fact they are flexible.
     
  18. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    17,891
    Likes
    37,826
    Sure - most of the options given have risk, so it's your choice. I just showed how I would do it. When people talk about using drills, or Dremels...well bending the link just enough to slide the bar out seems pretty tame to me, but YMMV.
     
  19. M'Bob

    M'Bob Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    3,632
    Likes
    7,031
    One other thing I think I remember from the past is the idea of taking a pin, putting a teeny bit of epoxy or super glue on the tip, abutting it to the bit of exposed bar, and the using it as a lever when dry to depress the spring. Any ideas on that one?
     
  20. M'Bob

    M'Bob Jul 28, 2020

    Posts
    3,632
    Likes
    7,031
    My understanding is that these originally did come with the sliding lever, which very well may have rotated around. Trying to figure out how to rotate it to check.