The Aviators Thread

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I remember that the School of Aviation Medicine which used to be at the RAAF base in Point Cook, Victoria, had one of these ejection seat trainers. They stopped using it because too many people were getting back injuries!
Like spin training or engine out simulation for twins [*]. It seems to be a knife-edge whether the risk from training causes more harm than the problem that is being trained for actually happening.


[*] E.E. Canberra for example. {{Not that I've flown one; did sit in an armed bang-seat of a Canberra once with admonition not to touch anything.}} {{{Pins in of course.}}}
 
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Like spin training or engine out simulation for twins [*]. It seems to be a knife-edge whether the risk from training causes more harm than the problem that is being trained for actually happening.


[*] E.E. Canberra for example. {{Not that I've flown one; did sit in an armed bang-seat of a Canberra once with admonition not to touch anything.}} {{{Pins in of course.}}}
I've been very fortunate to have had a ride in the PC-9 trainer on several occasions when I was a medical officer in the RAAF. On my first ride, I remember looking down at the orange handle on the ejection seat and hoping that I'd never have to pull it. The seat's T-shaped safety pin sat in a special holder on the canopy, which I've highlighted on one of the photos. You'd pull it out from the seat handle between your legs to arm it just before take off, and you'd replace it shortly after landing. If you've got fumble fingers and you accidentally dropped it on the floor, the flight would have to be abandoned as it can fly around inside the cockpit whilst doing aerobatics. You can imagine what a pain that would be!
 
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Driving with the Tudor.
Nice one. Is that a cup holder I see above your watch? I wonder which aircraft type that is as I've never seen a cup holder in a cockpit before.
 
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…I got stuck in the back of a 206 today…
Dude…check it out…look who else got stuck in the back of a 206 [high-skid configuration] back in the early 1980s…Canadian rocker Aldo Nova…


…and right after he got out of the back of the 206, he blew a door down with a freaking laser beam from his guitar…

 
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Nice one. Is that a cup holder I see above your watch? I wonder which aircraft type that is as I've never seen a cup holder in a cockpit before.
The drink holder looks like it was made in the machine shop and retro-fitted to the frame.
Cockpit looks like a C-2 Greyhound (COD).
 
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For your coffee break or morning coffee reading. Or if you wish, simply read the bold print.

From my Legion magazine…



And some advertisement.



And a small charm that I picked up at an antique store yesterday. Roughly the size of a US/Can dime.

 
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Dude…check it out…look who else got stuck in the back of a 206 [high-skid configuration] back in the early 1980s…Canadian rocker Aldo Nova…


…and right after he got out of the back of the 206, he blew a door down with a freaking laser beam from his guitar…

Good old Montreal boy! Lots of writing and producing credits on top of his own music.
 
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For your coffee break or morning coffee reading. Or if you wish, simply read the bold print.

From my Legion magazine…



And some advertisement.



And a small charm that I picked up at an antique store yesterday. Roughly the size of a US/Can dime.

Interesting article. Thanks for sharing. I dare say that by the Second World War such notions of chivalry would have been on the wane. But then again, there is an equally famous account of a badly damaged B-17 bomber that was spared by a German fighter.
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/valor-when-an-enemy-was-a-friend/
 
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Interesting article. Thanks for sharing. I dare say that by the Second World War such notions of chivalry would have been on the wane. But then again, there is an equally famous account of a badly damaged B-17 bomber that was spared by a German fighter.
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/valor-when-an-enemy-was-a-friend/
Great link, here is a further wiki article on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident
 
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Dude…check it out…look who else got stuck in the back of a 206 [high-skid configuration] back in the early 1980s…Canadian rocker Aldo Nova…


…and right after he got out of the back of the 206, he blew a door down with a freaking laser beam from his guitar…


Well I've never done anything as cool with lazers...



But I have been known to play with fire.
 
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The drink holder looks like it was made in the machine shop and retro-fitted to the frame.
Cockpit looks like a C-2 Greyhound (COD).
Close - P-3
 
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Close - P-3
Yup, close enough. Both grey, both fly over the sea.
Don't think the C-2 has a crapper though.
😉
 
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Speaking of the 206, below is a pic from 2023 during our Aviation Officer Candidate School reunion at the National Naval Aviation Museum at NAS Pensacola…had to get a pic with the TH-57 [the mil version of the 206] which I flew to get my naval aviator wings in 1988.

LATE ENTRY: Also, I’m wearing my original issue G-1 flight jacket from 1986 in the pic.

Hey Mad, a beautiful jacket 😎
 
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I knew that photo looked familiar. I have a book by the person who took it. His name is LCDR C.J. Heatley. Callsign "Heater".

As a helicopter pilot I have never been inclined to wearing bulky “pilots” watches at work. It might explain why I only have one GMT in my collection. Like the airline pilot said there is just too much metal to hook those larger cases and crowns on. More often or not I find myself wearing my DJ to work rather my than my GMT or Seiko Divers.

It is hard to tell from this picture but it is possible that the C.J. might actually be wearing a Rolex “Thunderbird” or Turn-o-Graph. Not an uncommon option for pilots of that era.



https://www.swisswatchexpo.com/thewatchclub/2023/02/22/rolex-turn-o-graph-ultimate-guide/

I am headed back to work tonight with this on my wrist.

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As a helicopter pilot I have never been inclined to wearing bulky “pilots” watches at work. It might explain why I only have one GMT in my collection. Like the airline pilot said there is just too much metal to hook those larger cases and crowns on. More often or not I find myself wearing my DJ to work rather my than my GMT or Seiko Divers.

It is hard to tell from this picture but it is possible that the C.J. might actually be wearing a Rolex “Thunderbird” or Turn-o-Graph. Not an uncommon option for pilots of that era.



https://www.swisswatchexpo.com/thewatchclub/2023/02/22/rolex-turn-o-graph-ultimate-guide/

I am headed back to work tonight with this in my wrist.

That's a nice blue dial.
Wonder how many "Thunderbirds" Turn-o-Graphs they made? They'd be real collector's items now.
 
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That's a nice blue dial.

Thank you!

Wonder how many "Thunderbirds" Turn-o-Graphs they made? They'd be real collector's items now.

They should be collectors items given they originated in 1953 and featured the first rotating bezel by Rolex, even before the Submariner. Also interesting is the TOG, Submariner and Milgauss all appear to have originated from the TOG “Alpha Model” TOG the Mono-Meter. (more about that in the link below)

I believe the original Datejust like design was available from 1953-1977 before changes brought about the more modern version that was finally discontinued in 2011.



Like all these earlier TOG models and the Datejust, it has become increasingly harder to find examples that have not been polished to death. The increase in popularity of the larger Rolex Sports models has pushed these classics to the background.

After many years of trying a number of Rolex variants I find myself happiest with my 36mm Datejusts and should probably start on a journey to find a “nice” pre 1977 Thunderbird.

A quick search of C24 between 1953-1977 delivered up 81 watches currently available worldwide. There does appear to be one like new with a grey dial in Germany for $6700.

Anyway, if you have any interest, this is a good 15 minute read on how the TOG fits into the Rolex history. It even mentions Col Pogue and has a photograph of him wearing his TOG when he was was a member of the Thunderbirds.

https://www.rolexmagazine.com/2008/10/san-francisco-fleet-week.html?m=1#gsc.tab=0