The Aviators Thread

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Yes, QANTAS is one of the world's oldest and best known airlines. However, it's been copping a bit of flak lately (from Aussies no less) because of posting record profits despite expensive tickets, crap service and ordinary food. The outgoing CEO, Alan Joyce, had to front up to a Senate commitee hearing a few days ago to defend his company's reputation.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/com...-for-qantas-super-profit-20230824-p5dz6e.html

https://www.smh.com.au/business/com...living-by-senate-inquiry-20230828-p5e026.html


Yeah Alan Joyce was/is very much a typical CEO - all personal profiteering while reducing costs by forcing his staff to work for crap condition’s and ……(don’t get me started). One of my best mate dad used to be an engineer @Ansett back u til he retired in 1990.
My family friend pilot was in involved in the Oz Pilot strike and was destroyed by the Aussie airlines.
So yeah ….unfortunately many businesses are not steered by integrity & morals.

but as this is a watch/aviation threat! Sorry.
Anybody seen one of these in a aeroplane before?
Supposedly mainly nautical usages & aviation
Eg “…….Its nautically influenced Marine series evolved from the marine chronometers that Abraham-Louis Breguet produced as official watchmaker to the French Royal Navy in the 1800s, for example. And the other Breguet watch collection that regularly marries utilitarian roots with luxurious contemporary details, the aviation-centric Type XX, traces its illustrious history to the early 20th century and the first Breguet scion to branch out from horology into the nascent field of manned flight…..”
https://www.watchtime.com/featured/rarefied-air-the-history-of-the-breguet-type-xx-collection/
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Yeah Alan Joyce was/is very much a typical CEO - all personal profiteering while reducing costs by forcing his staff to work for crap condition’s and ……(don’t get me started). One of my best mate dad used to be an engineer @Ansett back u til he retired in 1990.
My family friend pilot was in involved in the Oz Pilot strike and was destroyed by the Aussie airlines.
So yeah ….unfortunately many businesses are not steered by integrity & morals.

but as this is a watch/aviation threat! Sorry.
Anybody seen one of these in a aeroplane before?
Supposedly mainly nautical usages & aviation
Eg “…….Its nautically influenced Marine series evolved from the marine chronometers that Abraham-Louis Breguet produced as official watchmaker to the French Royal Navy in the 1800s, for example. And the other Breguet watch collection that regularly marries utilitarian roots with luxurious contemporary details, the aviation-centric Type XX, traces its illustrious history to the early 20th century and the first Breguet scion to branch out from horology into the nascent field of manned flight…..”
https://www.watchtime.com/featured/rarefied-air-the-history-of-the-breguet-type-xx-collection/
Thanks for sharing. Before I started getting into watches I was aware of Breguet as an aircraft manufacturer. When I noticed the Breguet name on watches, I had wondered about whether there was a connection. This article explains that nicely.
 
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Yesterday a cool sounding vintage plane flew overhead and looking it up on Radar24 found out it was a “
Lockheed P-38L” rego N25Y USA. Sorry about quality of oic - phone only it seems there is a air show at local airport this wkend with:
Lisunov Li-2
Douglas DC-6 B F4U-4 "Corsair"
Lockheed P-38 "Lightning"
P-51D Mustang D-FPSI
Junkers F13 Replica (originals are grounded in CH)
Beech 18 S
Pitts S1S - Experimental
De Havilland Gipsy Moth
De Havilland DH. 104 Dove

if anybody is close by & fancies going/ https://flughafenfest.ch/programm-festplan/
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Also for those of you not aware of Katsuhiko Tokunaga (aviation photographer). I saw a lecture by him and got some prints & his Book “Patrouille Suisse Backstage” awesome book & images of the PS work and inflight photos
[Note all copyright is @Katsushiko Tokunaga & Urs Mattle “Patrouille Suisse:Backstage AS Verlag]
Their videos are cool as well
Copyright Yannick Barthe Films, VBS/DDPS 2016
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Also for those of you not aware of Katsuhiko Tokunaga (aviation photographer). I saw a lecture by him and got some prints & his Book “Patrouille Suisse Backstage” awesome book & images of the PS work and inflight photos
[Note all copyright is @Katsushiko Tokunaga & Urs Mattle “Patrouille Suisse:Backstage AS Verlag]
Their videos are cool as well
Copyright Yannick Barthe Films, VBS/DDPS 2016
Spectacular. What a backdrop. Switzerland is one of those countries where you just can't take a bad picture.
 
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Spectacular. What a backdrop. Switzerland is one of those countries where you just can't take a bad picture.
Unfortunately I would have to say, I manage to achieve it regular (cut off feet, sun stars or just crap exposure. And it’s not the cameras fault but me the user! Luckily these days with digital one can just check and then Delete it and retake if bad!😀🙁😟
but my bad photography skills has Nuthing to do or detract from the Swiss Alps beauty. If U love planes & Swiss mountains then I can highly recommend Alpax Mtn Shooting range where each Year the Swiss Airforce does a demo straggling runs and other aerial displays.

note: F-35 being flown by non-Swiss airforce pilots as f-35 order delivery still outstanding for Swiss airforce. So I believe it was two Italian F35 demo pilots(but could also have been US‍♂️
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Bonus points if you can work out what watch is on Maverick's wrist 😁

I guessed it was a Porsche Designed chrono but wasn’t remebeing which brand type. So close but no cigar for me😟

checking online https://www.watch-id.com/sightings/porsche-design-chronograph-1-tom-cruise-top-gun#:~:text=Tom Cruise wears a Porsche Design Chronograph 1 watch in,the first Top Gun film.

it appears it was a
“The markings on the Top Gun movie watch on Tom Cruise's wrist (right) match the Porsche Design Chronograph 1 ref 7750 model (including the 1 Mile tachymeter markers and PD logo) seen on the left.”
photo © Christies / Paramount
 
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Goose, it's time to buzz the tower...

Image courtesy of World of Fighter Jets via Facebook
 
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I took the family on a balloon ride in Turkey last week, it was an amazing experience and stunning views.

 
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Goose, it's time to buzz the tower...

Image courtesy of World of Fighter Jets via Facebook
So that is what they call “buzz the carrier”! 🤔
 
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Goose, it's time to buzz the tower...

Image courtesy of World of Fighter Jets via Facebook

I sense photoshop.
Ocean looks strange.
Control surfaces are wrong for 90º hold attitude.
No ectoplasm upper wing surfaces.
No "mirage" heat signature from tail pipes.
Funny "shadow outlines" around subjects.
 
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I sense photoshop.
Ocean looks strange.
Control surfaces are wrong for 90º hold attitude.
No ectoplasm upper wing surfaces.
No "mirage" heat signature from tail pipes.
Funny "shadow outlines" around subjects.
I think you'd be right. Good pick up. I did a bit of snooping around on the interwebs and found the original pic. The pilot was Capt. Dale "Snort" Snodgrass. He did this low pass for a Dependants Day cruise on the carrier USS America in 1988. The pic was captured by a US Navy photographer.
 
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I took the family on a balloon ride in Turkey last week, it was an amazing experience and stunning views.

Wow. Stunning indeed! Did you take the pics using a camera or a mobile phone? If it was your phone, I hope you were holding on to it tightly as it's a long way down!
 
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Wow. Stunning indeed! Did you take the pics using a camera or a mobile phone? If it was your phone, I hope you were holding on to it tightly as it's a long way down!
I used my iPhone for the photos in normal and portrait mode. We got up to 8000 feet above the other balloons.

The pilot was incredibly skilled, anyone who has flown in a Balloon knows you don't really land one, it's more of a controlled crash. This pilot landed the basked on a trailer attached to a Land Rover Defender inch perfect.
 
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I used my iPhone for the photos in normal and portrait mode. We got up to 8000 feet above the other balloons.

The pilot was incredibly skilled, anyone who has flown in a Balloon knows you don't really land one, it's more of a controlled crash. This pilot landed the basked on a trailer attached to a Land Rover Defender inch perfect.
My sister-in-law went on a balloon ride in Turkey just like this perhaps a week or two prior to the massive earthquake they had this year 🙁

The photos were incredible!
 
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My sister-in-law went on a balloon ride in Turkey just like this perhaps a week or two prior to the massive earthquake they had this year 🙁

The photos were incredible!
We were staying in Istanbul and needed to fly to Kappadokia to fly the balloons. Every evening the company would check the wind forecast for the next day and email us. I booked flights every day and canceled the days we knew the wind was too high.

internal flights are cheap as chips so it was worth booking everyday as we managed to fly on the only day possible during our whole vacation. It was a trek from hell with no sleep for 24 hours but worth it.

I love Turkey, great food and really nice people. Istanbul is a sight to behold, 22 million ( including 4 million Syrians and tourists) people in one city.
 
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I think you'd be right. Good pick up. I did a bit of snooping around on the interwebs and found the original pic. The pilot was Capt. Dale "Snort" Snodgrass. He did this low pass for a Dependants Day cruise on the carrier USS America in 1988. The pic was captured by a US Navy photographer.

Most excellent that the most famous image ever captured of the F-14A Tomcat has found its way to this thread.

Prior to Snorts tragic death in 2021 during practice for an airshow I worked closely with him during my plastic modeling years to create this model for the 2013 National Scale Modelers show. It won the top national prize in 2013 for Modern Jets.

Snort was an amazing fighter pilot. We worked closely together to get the details just right on his famous pass. The iconic pass image across the Landing Signal Officer platform is referred to as "The Shot"

Here are a few images of my award winning model that Snort happily signed for me when we met up at the Oceana airshow shortly after I completed it. Sadly it never had it to his home in Florida.

Snort was a true gentleman and sorely missed in the community.

 
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Since we are talking Tomcats and fighter pilot legends here is another one of my award winning Tomcat builds. Do you see a theme to my builds👍

This one is an also one of the most famous air to air engagements between The F-14A Tomcat the the newly developed F-15 Strike Eagle.

The story of Joe “Hoser” Satrapa, the F-14 Tomcat pilot who scored two simulated gun kills on two USAF F-15s for two times in the same mission

Guns were Hoser’s game in the air; he flew the four-gun Crusader – which many Navy pilots still regard as the [deleted] machine of all time- in Southeast Asia, and he’d never been forced to rely totally on missiles like his Navy Phantom cohorts. After negotiations that would shame the pro football draft, Hoser was dragooned back into the Tomcat front seat as a RAG guns instructor. This, after personal entreaties from the highest levels up and including Secretary of the Navy John Lehman, himself a Reserve naval aviator.

Many active pilots and RIOs well remember Hoser’s delivery of manic harangues to fuzzy-cheeked newcomers from the RAG. In his patented Yosemite Sam voice he would whip the lads, and invariably himself, into a lethal frenzy: “Pull on the pole till the rivets pop and the RIO pukes! No kill like a guns kill! A Lima up the tailpipe is too good for any Gomer! Close with the miserable Commie [deleted] and put a few rounds of twenty-twenty-mike-mike through his canopy! If he hits the silk, gun his ass while he swings!” Hoser would then pace the corridor, bumping into hapless petty officers, muttering oaths, trying to re-align his internal INS.

Hoser also knew a thing or two about the element of surprise. During the much-maligned AIMVAL-ACEVAL fighter trials of a decade ago, Hoser was put in a 1 V 1 against a Navy Aggressor flying an F-5. As the two combatants sat side-by-side on the Nellis runway, awaiting tower clearance for a second takeoff, Hoser looked over at his opponent, reached his hand up over the control panel, and mimicked the cocking of machine guns in a World War I Spad. A thumbs up came from the other cockpit- guns it would be, the proverbial knife fight in a phone booth, forget the missiles. Both jets blasted off.

In the area, the fighters set up twenty miles apart for a head-on intercept under ground control. Seven miles from the merge, with closure well over 1000 knots, Hoser called “Fox One” – Sparrow missile away, no chance of a miss. As they flashed past each other, the furious F-5 driver radioed, “What the hell was that all about?” “Sorry.” said Hoser, “lost my head. Let’s set up again. Guns only, I promise.”

Remember Charlie Brown, Lucy, and the football? Again the two fighters streaked towards the pass, again at seven miles Hoser called “Fox One.” The Aggressor was apoplectic; he was also coming up on bingo fuel state, a common situation in the short-legged F-5.

Hoser was first back to the club bar, nursing an end-of-the-day cold one as the flushed Aggressor stomped in. “Hoser, what the hell happened to credibility?” fumed the F-5 jock. Said Hoser, with accompanying thumb gestures, “Credibility is DOWN, kill ratio is UP!” It’s a popular Top Gun story, and it’s moral isn’t lost on students or teachers. From 1 V 1 to forty-plane furball, expect anything. But never expect your enemy to be a sweet guy.”

As explained by Alvin Towley in his book Fly Navy: Discovering the Extraordinary People and Enduring Spirit of Naval Aviation, on another occasion, Hoser was set to duel two versus two with a pair of U.S. Air Force (USAF) F-15 Eagles. On the tarmac, Hoser’s wingman had mechanical trouble and couldn’t fly, but Hoser decided to fly anyway and turn the situation to his advantage. Hoser and his Tomcat NFO (a backseat Radar Intercept Officer, or RIO, as they were known in the F-14 community) took off. They began impersonating two airplanes on the radio. The F-15 Eagles, who expected two adversaries, became distracted as they searched for the “other” Navy jet on their radar screens. Hoser quickly bagged two gun kills, maneuvering through missile ranges until he was close enough to trigger his 20 mm cannon. In round two, he flat outmaneuvered the air force pilots for two more gun kills. And as he always said, “There’s no kill like a guns kill.”

To add a little more insult to his adversaries’ loss, Lt. Commander Satrapa impersonated a junior grade lieutenant during the mission debrief, which was done over telephone. The air force pilots thought they’d been whipped by a student pilot.

As every great fighter pilot story begins "Now, this is no Shit..."

I met Hoser at his home in SOCAL where he happily signed my build.



This is the actual gun photo image from the F-15 kill as seen from Hoser's perspective.

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As a great side note. Snort and Hoser were best friends. As the story goes...

One afternoon Hoser known for being a bit crazy was fishing in a pond with some non fishing type ordinance. There was an explosion and a shell exploded in Hoser's hand blowing off his right thumb. Snort visited him in the hospital where the doctors suggested they remove one of his big toes and replace his thumb. Hoser was not thrilled but Snort convinced him because his toe was hidden in his dirty old boot. Hoser relented and proceeded with the surgery. He was later returned to flight status where Hoser shot down an F-15 with a toe stitched to his hand.

His callsign briefly became "Toeser"😀

Here a great picture of Hoser with his toed right hand.