Spotted..... Ultra-Limited Katy Perry Speedy

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NASA counted X15 pilots as astronauts, and Alan Shepard was only up 15 minutes, so it does count. But a dumb PR stunt nonetheless.
 
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There's a difference between astronaut and passenger. She was a passenger
 
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There's a difference between astronaut and passenger. She was a passenger

Alan Shepherd would take issue with that. Spam in a can…
 
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Alan Shepherd would take issue with that. Spam in a can…
From reading a few books, those guys wished they had the level of control that the X series pilots had, but they knew they were astronauts.

Now whether Yuri Gagarin even had access to the controls of Vostok 1 is an interesting story.
 
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From reading a few books, those guys wished they had the level of control that the X series pilots had, but they knew they were astronauts.

Now whether Yuri Gagarin even had access to the controls of Vostok 1 is an interesting story.
They had to fight for a window to be added.
 
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They had to fight for a window to be added.
On the basis that you can't be a pilot if you can't see out the window.

Did come in useful the Apollo 13 boys
 
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NASA counted X15 pilots as astronauts, and Alan Shepard was only up 15 minutes, so it does count. But a dumb PR stunt nonetheless.
Although both Alan Shepard's & Gus Grissom's capsules were not "scorched by Earth's atmosphere", they went higher to 190 Kilometers.
All orbital Mercury capsules, Glenn, Carpenter, Schirra & Cooper, flew above 250 Kilometers 😉
 
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They had to fight for a window to be added.
Indeed, Alan Shepard only had a periscope and on LEO orbital flights these "capsules" spacecraft flew backwards, however manual control had been taken on several occasions and Gordo Cooper used his wrist watches to time his re-entry which was the most accurate of the whole "Mercury" program !
 
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I do agree that in the current climate, this seems pretty tone deaf. Also echos of “The Expanse” where the oligarchs have left earth to suffer, established slave colonies to mine asteroids. If it helps pay the bills to establish some sort of sustainable space presence, all good.
 
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Well Homer Simpson had more training than Katy Perry, flew into space with Buzz, sang the Golden Grahams cereal commercial song, and the crew knew not to remove the bar from the door until the photo op was completed.
 
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Rockets do blow up, so it took some guts to ride it. Still, it felt like it wasn't pushing any boundaries.

When the first woman cosmonaut went into space, she was there almost 3 days. When she landed, she lept from her vehicle at 4 miles up and parachuted to the ground. But before she even got into the capsule, she peed on the tires of the bus that brought her to the rocket because that was the tradition that the male cosmonauts before her had started. Valentina was a bad ass.

As much as I would like to admire their efforts, it doesn't feel the same. There should be a different name than astronaut or cosmonaut. Maybe astrotourist.
 
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Disclaimer: I'm in no way a Kate Perry fan or a fan of any of the passengers on this particular flight but... while watching the fallout from all this I did wonder whether sexism was playing a role in the intensity of the public's reaction to it.

Male celebrities and wealthy individuals have taken similar suborbital flights (Virgin Galactic et al have taken around 70 people into 'space'), and even orbital trips to the ISS (Dennis Tito being the first of 6 rich ISS visitors), all without anywhere near the same level of public anger.

Is the focus on this being an "all-female" crew contributing to the negativity? Are there different expectations or judgments being applied here compared to when rich men and male celebrities participate in similar space tourism?

Not trying to be antagonistic.
Just a thought.
 
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Disclaimer: I'm in no way a Kate Perry fan or a fan of any of the passengers on this particular flight but... while watching the fallout from all this I did wonder whether sexism was playing a role in the intensity of the public's reaction to it.

Male celebrities and wealthy individuals have taken similar suborbital flights (Virgin Galactic et al have taken around 70 people into 'space'), and even orbital trips to the ISS (Dennis Tito being the first of 6 rich ISS visitors), all without anywhere near the same level of public anger.

Is the focus on this being an "all-female" crew contributing to the negativity? Are there different expectations or judgments being applied here compared to when rich men and male celebrities participate in similar space tourism?

Not trying to be antagonistic.
Just a thought.
You may be on to something. The public is generally more critical of women. But I also think this reaction is partly due to the actions of this “crew”. As an example, look to a prior Blue Origin flight that also led to mockery. Recall the reaction to Jeff Bezos flying up with William Shatner and how many people made fun of Bezos and his team, while Shatner was viewed positively because his experience made him more humble and gracious. Bezos being a man didn’t spare him from criticism.

I know Richard Branson is a bit of a loud character, but he just doesn’t get as much publicity for some reason. Im not sure whether it’s intentional on his part or not
 
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Disclaimer: I'm in no way a Kate Perry fan or a fan of any of the passengers on this particular flight but... while watching the fallout from all this I did wonder whether sexism was playing a role in the intensity of the public's reaction to it.

Male celebrities and wealthy individuals have taken similar suborbital flights (Virgin Galactic et al have taken around 70 people into 'space'), and even orbital trips to the ISS (Dennis Tito being the first of 6 rich ISS visitors), all without anywhere near the same level of public anger.

Is the focus on this being an "all-female" crew contributing to the negativity? Are there different expectations or judgments being applied here compared to when rich men and male celebrities participate in similar space tourism?

Not trying to be antagonistic.
Just a thought.
You watched the fallout, but did you actually see the cringe? Specifically, KP holding a flower to the camera instead of looking out the window of a once-in-a-lifetime event? I would guess she's under the influence drugs... IN SPACE! Plenty of women in space before her and there were no haters. It's about the individual, so don't fall for the identity politics bait.

 
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I wonder what watches the astronauts on the Musk sponsored space station rescue wore?

It is amazing how much attention the Bezo's sponsored 11 minute ride is being given vs Musk's rescue mission.