Spirate regulation system

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Hi everyone, I'm wondering if Omega's new regulation system will ever be introduced in new models or if it was just an attempt for marketing reasons in order to get the whole watch community talking about it? Because up to now, it has only be "integrated" in a Speedmaster racing model, so what do you think about this "weird" or "strange" move from Omega? Meanwhile may you all have a nice time.
 
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Hi everyone, I'm wondering if Omega's new regulation system will ever be introduced in new models or if it was just an attempt for marketing reasons in order to get the whole watch community talking about it? Because up to now, it has only be "integrated" in a Speedmaster racing model, so what do you think about this "weird" or "strange" move from Omega? Meanwhile may you all have a nice time.
The last watch like this that was launched as a sort of “pathfinder” for new tech was the bumblebee 15,000 gauss Aqua Terra and that did get expanded to the whole model range after a couple of years.
 
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There's no way I can see them investing the r & d in the spirate system with a view to limiting it to one watch. I imagine it will get rolled out throughout the range over time. Or possibly kept for the halo models. Ultimately the investment has got to be paid back in sales. One watch model ain't going to do that.
 
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I have been waiting to buy a seamaster 300m or a new planet Ocean, in the hopes that a newer model comes out next year with the Spirate system.
 
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That’s the hope. The spirate is a great improvement of technology that us watch enthusiasts appreciate. I think the next Seamaster professional will have it if I was a betting man.
 
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Earlier this year I attended an Omega presentation/lecture in London about the Spirate, what it is and how it works. An awful lot of work has gone into producing an escapement that is so, so accurate under real-world conditions.

So I would be very surprised if the Spirate system doesn't start appearing in other watches, but in my opinion it won't be for a while, perhaps a year or two. Again, that's just my opinion.
 
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I would not wait for the Spirate system. Of course, it should come about eventually but I wouldn't wait.
 
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The first Gen of a new tech is always perfect, co axial had no teething problems at all….😗
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Got the Super Racing from the boutique last month, and I am very very satisfied being accuracy tech nerd. I feel this is a real game changer tech. However, get the exp2 if from an AD, but if from grey dealers then you probably wouldn't regret getting the Super Racing.

The caliber 9900 was already the most accurate caliber with two barrels and the 4hz beat rate. If omega decides to fit the spirate into the single barrel 3.5hz 8600, the guaranteed accuracy may not be the average 2sec. but maybe an average of 3sec, and delta being 5 to 6 seconds.

The new COSC like institution should help speeding up the spirate calibers regulation timeline, but even still it may take years before a second model, much less a new caliber.
The first Gen of a new tech is always perfect, co axial had no teething problems at all….😗
 
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Got the Super Racing from the boutique last month, and I am very very satisfied being accuracy tech nerd. I feel this is a real game changer tech. However, get the exp2 if from an AD, but if from grey dealers then you probably wouldn't regret getting the Super Racing.

The caliber 9900 was already the most accurate caliber with two barrels and the 4hz beat rate. If omega decides to fit the spirate into the single barrel 3.5hz 8600, the guaranteed accuracy may not be the average 2sec. but maybe an average of 3sec, and delta being 5 to 6 seconds.

The new COSC like institution should help speeding up the spirate calibers regulation timeline, but even still it may take years before a second model, much less a new caliber.
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Spirate System is awesome, in my opinion. Can't wait to see it hit more models, I think that would make them the undisputed market leader in mechanical accuracy. I know accuracy isn't critical for many but I think it's important that the industry still innovates and strives for perfection anyway, even if it's never achieved. That's part of the art and science of horology.

The first Gen of a new tech is always perfect, co axial had no teething problems at all….😗

True, but was eventually addressed, the original 2500A and to some extent B were only around for what, five or six years? Ish? AFAIK it was completely addressed prior to the introduction of in house calibers built around it.

Plus, that's a completely new escapement, this is mainly just about more a more precise and simpler to achieve regulation, it shouldn't affect reliability of the movement.
 
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Got the Super Racing from the boutique last month, and I am very very satisfied being accuracy tech nerd. I feel this is a real game changer tech. However, get the exp2 if from an AD, but if from grey dealers then you probably wouldn't regret getting the Super Racing.

The caliber 9900 was already the most accurate caliber with two barrels and the 4hz beat rate. If omega decides to fit the spirate into the single barrel 3.5hz 8600, the guaranteed accuracy may not be the average 2sec. but maybe an average of 3sec, and delta being 5 to 6 seconds.

The new COSC like institution should help speeding up the spirate calibers regulation timeline, but even still it may take years before a second model, much less a new caliber.
Personally I’d question whether the 9900 is the most accurate current or recent calibre, do you know of anything to support that? Is there any analysis of COSC or METAS data available I wonder. It is an interesting point though, I wonder which is consistently the most accurate. Maybe Al or another accredited watchmaker would know. I’m not going to ping him though as he’s getting lots of vexatious requests for mundane info at present.

One other point, I think the single barrel movement get you refer to is in fact the 8800, the 8600 is a development of the double barrel 8500. Omega didn’t make it easy when they named these!
 
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What is exp2 ?

BTW, I just got my super racing, it's really amazing although checkered sub-seconds hands at times is difficult to locate
 
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Earlier this year I attended an Omega presentation/lecture in London about the Spirate, what it is and how it works. An awful lot of work has gone into producing an escapement that is so, so accurate under real-world conditions.

To clarify, from the description in the Hodinkee article, the Spirate is a refinement of the regulating system, not a new escapement (e.g. Swiss lever, coaxial, etc). These are two very different parts of a mechanical watch.
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Well, I happy with my new Speedmaster Racing 9900 - Only had it a week and seems to have settled into a solid +1 per day. (Better than the +3.5 of the 4130 Rolex Daytona I flipped it for.) Your experience may vary.View attachment 1815834
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I don’t know how this is possible, but I have the Speedmaster ‘57 which doesn’t have the Spirate system but is the 9906. I synchronized it with my iOS clock on the 14th and so far it has only advanced 3 seconds over the past 11 days. I am going to try toolwatch.io and see what that says.
 
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The accuracy of the modern co axial Omega movements is fantastic. My 3861 is on stable +0.5 sec/day.
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The accuracy of the modern co axial Omega movements is fantastic. My 3861 is on stable +0.5 sec/day.
Yeah I checked it with toolwatch.io and it says +.5 seconds per day. I know it’s not as good as a time grapher, and I think it might be even lower. As I mentioned I sync’d it with my phone on the 14th and as of today (the 27th) it’s about 4 seconds fast. Either way, it’s really good even without the spirate. I wonder what people are actually seeing with the super racing in the real world?
 
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Yeah I checked it with toolwatch.io and it says +.5 seconds per day. I know it’s not as good as a time grapher, and I think it might be even lower. As I mentioned I sync’d it with my phone on the 14th and as of today (the 27th) it’s about 4 seconds fast. Either way, it’s really good even without the spirate. I wonder what people are actually seeing with the super racing in the real world?

With the 9920 I believe there is some slight improvement over the 9900 but both are fantastic. The 9920 only available on the recent super racing whereas the 9900 on the racing models. It is like the future for Omega's higher end watches would be my guess.
 
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It sure seems like they keep pushing to improve accuracy and stability, when it seems pretty standard to just be “good enough”.