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Hi Guys, is here everything legit? I think not! Seller says it is a 861 movement. Can you help me please?
 
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It's a mix of parts from different models. Pre-pro dial, with later case, hands, and bezel. The case is also very soft.
 
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Pretty sure the dial is a modern SL dial which explains the cal. 861
 
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Mmh, not very attractive... Overpolished case, modern back with something which looks like a 321 dial, pre-professional period... Strange way to re-build a speedy...
Check the movement serial...
 
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Pretty sure the dial is a modern SL dial which explains the cal. 861

Ah yes, you're right. I always forget about the Speedmasters that aren't Professionals.
 
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Maybe the reissue speedy with swapped hands, bezel, and caseback? Seems like a lot of work. I’m thinking it’s a cobbled together piece, and wouldn’t touch it without seeing the movement.
 
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Maybe the reissue speedy with swapped hands, bezel, and caseback? Seems like a lot of work. I’m thinking it’s a cobbled together piece, and wouldn’t touch it without seeing the movement.

The case is extremely worn.
 
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Pretty sure the dial is a modern SL dial which explains the cal. 861
Nope. The so called Replica model from which this dial likely came used the 1861. That isn't a FOIS dial, that has the newer AML, this is the older logo as used on the Replica dial. This seems to be a horrible Franken with a very tatty case.

The bracelet is nice though, even though it has nothing to do with any Speedmaster.
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The bracelet it nice though, even though it has nothing to do wit any Speecmaster.
You think it’s an Omega shark mesh or just a generic mesh bracelet?

Good call on the replica’s 1861. But based on everything else I’m seeing here, maybe it has an 1861 in it? Either way $3k is likely too much. I’ve sold one and seen other replicas sell for under $2.5k
 
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You think it’s an Omega shark mesh or just a generic mesh bracelet?

Good call on the replica’s 1861. But based on everything else I’m seeing here, maybe it has an 1861 in it? Either way $3k is likely too much. I’ve sold one and seen other replicas sell for under $2.5k
Its the Omega seatbelt clasp shark mesh ref 1380/237. I love mine but sizing it is a bit of a bitch as as std it only fits up to a 7.2" wrist which is a bit small for many and the extension piece looks like an afterthought.
 
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It’s the dial of the 2012 broad arrow model. The dial feet of the cal 1861 and 861 are the same
 
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It’s the dial of the 2012 broad arrow model. The dial feet of the cal 1861 and 861 are the same
Which Broad Arrow model?
 
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Yes, but still SL though. Never mentioned FOIS
No you didn't but you did mention the the 861 movement. No SL dial Speedmaster has an 861 movement but I guess an SL dial could be retrofitted onto one as you say. I mentioned the FOIS as that is another long index SL dial non Pro option, and explained why it isn't that since the logo is wrong The Trilogy SP also used a non T long index dial but that has darkened lume so its not that either.
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