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Speedmaster production and serial numbers from the MOONWATCH ONLY website

  1. Vulffi Jun 7, 2017

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    That was very nice :)
     
  2. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jun 7, 2017

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    I have both. Probably keep the old one, dog eared as it is. :)
     
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  3. Amaza Jun 7, 2017

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    Yes, that makes sense but still I lost 100 eur in a couple of weeks. I was actually hoping that the second one had no much added value. And I tried to comfort myself judging the book from the (outer) cover. I find the red one awful :D!
    Maybe I ll keep it, in 60 years it is gonna be vintage. [emoji14]

    BTW have you notice that some genius started selling it second hand at +2000 eur on amazon when it run out, I think they still have that price online. LOL
     
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  4. nonuffinkbloke #1 Nigel Mansell Fan Jun 7, 2017

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    They'll always be handy @oddboy .:thumbsup:
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  5. JMH76 Jun 7, 2017

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    In a 2007 50th anniversary press release Omega stated 330,000 Speedmaster Professional watches had been produced.
     
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  6. JMH76 Jun 7, 2017

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    Thank you so much for publishing these tables. They will be a valuable addition to the generally available knowledge about Speedmaster s/n's and production years. Certainly many questions posted on this forum can be answered authoritatively now using these tables.


    I note that in several instances a reference number that includes a YR suffix is actually shown as being produced in the following year; e.g. the 105.012-63/64/65/66 series noted as produced in 64/65/66/67. I have assumed the years shown in Tables B and C are production years. Is that correct?
     
  7. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jun 7, 2017

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  8. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jun 7, 2017

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  9. lowen Moonwatch Only Author Jun 8, 2017

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    Correct.

    The year of production stated in the tables is the date of the assembly or the dispatch of the watch, and not the introduction date of the model or that given in the case reference inside the caseback.
     
  10. momosono Jun 8, 2017

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    Great job, thank you very much. I already saved the tables for future reference.
    Could you explain the following:
    For a simple amateur like me the numbers in the table for the 861/1861 calibre for the periods 1971-1974 and 1975-1976 (145.022-71 and 74) seem to be overlapping/mixed/inconsistent.
    Did Omega mix up their production numbers or where does this stem from?
     
  11. ewand Jun 8, 2017

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    Isn't it bizarre that the serial numbers between different models overlapped so much?
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    Now, there are clear differences between the 71, 74 and 76 models; in fact, I have a 71 that's 31617xxx and a 74 that is 31326xxx - but they presumably wouldn't have overlap between the production of the different models, so they must just have been stockpiling movements and using whatever came to hand from the warehouse...?
     
  12. JMH76 Jun 8, 2017

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    Judging by the s/n's and years in Table C would it be fair to say there are probably no SMP's the range 40xxxxxx - 448xxxxx?
     
  13. speedy4ever Moonwatch Only Author Jun 8, 2017

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    Yep, it seems it was a mess during that period. When we started collecting s/n, we thought at the beginning that such overlapping was the result of frankens, but now enough examples have been observed (e.g. 145.022-74 in 31 million) to validate them as genuine and coherent.
     
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  14. dubois Jun 17, 2017

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    [QUOTE = "speedy4ever, post: 731785, member: 1476"] Oui, il semble que ce soit un désordre pendant cette période. Lorsque nous avons commencé à collecter s / n, nous avons pensé au début qu'un tel chevauchement était le résultat de frankens, mais maintenant, des exemples suffisants ont été observés (par exemple 145.022-74 sur 31 millions) pour les valider comme véritables et cohérents. [/ QUOTE]




    So step dial on a 1974 model and not 1971 may well have a step dial dial? friendship
     
  15. dubois Jun 17, 2017

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    So step dial on a 1974 model and not 1971 may well have a step dial dial? friendship
     
  16. speedy4ever Moonwatch Only Author Jun 17, 2017

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    Here we are talking about s/n mess only: probably that a huge quantity of movements were produced and left as stock. Regarding the other parts (dial, case), the right order was respected and the step dial stoks were finished when they assembled the models with "-74" casebacks.
     
  17. dubois Jun 17, 2017

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    [QUOTE = "speedy4ever, post: 737722, member: 1476"] Ici, nous parlons de s / n mess seulement: probablement qu'une énorme quantité de mouvements a été produite et laissée en stock. En ce qui concerne les autres pièces (cadran, étui), le bon ordre a été respecté et les échelles de réglage ont été terminées lors de l'assemblage des modèles avec des fondements "-74". [/ QUOTE]

    So there were speedmasters of 1974 with step dial. This one remains more rare than the rare speedmasters of 1971 produced in very small quantity or not ? friendship.
     
  18. speedy4ever Moonwatch Only Author Jun 17, 2017

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    Ref 145.022-71 produced in 1974 have step dial.
    Ref 145.022-74 produced from 1975 to 1976 have a flat dial.

    Look into Moonwatch Only for more details
     
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  20. Bbturbo Mar 17, 2019

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    Yes most definitely. Cannot agree more, particularly for newbies like me
     
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