Speedmaster 145.012 Authenticity Check: Dial & Lume Issues

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gotthevintageflu

·Mar 29, 2026

Hi,

What do you think about this?
Repainted dial?

Thanks

 

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djmusicman

·Mar 30, 2026

It's just not that nice. Lume plots aren't attractive and the hands are grotty.

 

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watch_my_six

·Mar 30, 2026

If you're ok with reluming it, I suppose the bezel is nice, and maybe the case but hard to tell with those blown out photos...

 

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AHW

·Mar 30, 2026

Not sure if it is an artefact from the photo but the 10 in the minute subdial looks very strange.

 

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AHW

·Mar 30, 2026

watch_my_six

If you're ok with reluming it, I suppose the bezel is nice, and maybe the case but hard to tell with those blown out photos...

Not to divert from the thread, but how much do you think reluming effects the value of a non-collector grade watch? I am considering having it done to a watch myself.

Personally I don’t see it as a negative, but I have seen a lot of comments implying it is.

 

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Dan S

·Mar 30, 2026

The main issues are the obvious cosmetic ones.

AHW

Not to divert from the thread, but how much do you think reluming effects the value of a non-collector grade watch? I am considering having it done to a watch myself.

If the original lume is almost gone or extremely ugly, I don't think re-luming hurts the value at all.

 

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djmusicman

·Mar 30, 2026

Here's a relumed watch with a refinished case, a spiralwinder insert and an uncle seiko bracelet. Looks way better than a scruffy worn out watch to me.

 

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gotthevintageflu

·Mar 30, 2026

AHW

Not sure if it is an artefact from the photo but the 10 in the minute subdial looks very strange.

The 10 is damaged actually

 

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gotthevintageflu

·Mar 30, 2026

Anyway, thanks for the feedback, but the watch was already sold by now for 5600 euros.

 

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AHW

·Mar 30, 2026

Dan S

The main issues are the obvious cosmetic ones.


If the original lume is almost gone or extremely ugly, I don't think re-luming hurts the value at all.

That was my assumption as well, but thanks for confirming! I guess the key is just to get it tastefully relumed rather than a too strong colour.

 

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AHW

·Mar 30, 2026

gotthevintageflu

The 10 is damaged actually

Ah. Then I wouldn’t have really considered it as to me that would be too distracting.

 

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SOG53

·Mar 30, 2026

I don’t think you missed anything here. Keep hunting

 

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Passover

·Mar 30, 2026

What happened to the "T SWISS MADE T"?

7 hour marker also incomplete

 

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ErichKeane

·Mar 30, 2026

gotthevintageflu

Anyway, thanks for the feedback, but the watch was already sold by now for 5600 euros.

That is no deal for this one IMO, you're fortunate someone grabbed it before you did something stupid (like pay that much for that watch 😁 ).

 

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gotthevintageflu

·Mar 30, 2026

Passover

What happened to the "T SWISS MADE T"?

7 hour marker also incomplete

Wow, I would never have noticed this on my own.

 

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ibis888

·Mar 30, 2026

Why not look to the private sales forum, a couple of very nice Speedmasters for sale right now..

 

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watch_my_six

·Apr 1, 2026

AHW

Not to divert from the thread, but how much do you think reluming effects the value of a non-collector grade watch? I am considering having it done to a watch myself.

Personally I don’t see it as a negative, but I have seen a lot of comments implying it is.

For a non-collector grade watch, I don't think it hurts the value and may even slightly help it. I used Horoluma.com, who uses "vintage" pigments (purportedly not luminova based) and really like the result.