Community Stories

Sourcing Omega Constellation 167.005 in the UK

lawler
Posts
209
Likes
199
I am trying to find a model like the picture below in the UK in good condition and have been on the lookout for some time now.

Are these rarer than hen's teeth and what would a fair price be to pay?

Appreciate any advice.

9a491d43773bf53fee062ef77245fddd.jpg
 
Peemacgee
Posts
6,320
Likes
9,764
Hello @lawler

pics are always preferred to links if you want feed back.

Yes, no date constellations are less common as fewer were made.

This watch looks all original apart from a service rotor.

I’m a little surprised a 1963 watch has such a hard edged / stepped pie pan - they’re usually much softer until a little later in the decade.

The watch is quite nice but unfortunately has been prepped for sale so the case is softer than it should be.
It’s not too badly polished and would still look good on the wrist but they have removed the sharp facet edges which make these watches a delight.
Which is somewhat quite ironic since the seller makes a big thing about the case facets in their sales blurb.

As it is, in a private sale I’d say this is a £1200 watch - max.
Retail maybe £1500-£1750

Note I don’t think they claim it’s been serviced. ( so add another £2-300)

Pics for the swarm.

979DF787-4C32-44B7-852E-0A2F185DC7AE.jpeg A09B9B56-F9CD-489A-832F-C95A77F4D6CB.jpeg E4CCB926-B041-4EDD-B30F-FB99C5FA244D.jpeg B9ACCB45-FAB1-47D2-98A0-CEB3B47908A7.jpeg C6CE6BE8-796E-4E45-99E1-CA6D0137E59A.jpeg
 
Noddyman
Posts
1,117
Likes
1,791
lawler lawler
I saw this one for sale for £3,000 but it seems significantly inflated:

https://watchesoflancashire.com/product/1963-omega-constellation-pie-pan-167-005/

Keen to hear any thoughts on this.
You should be able to find a really nice example for roughly half that amount. Are you fixed on a 167.005 or would you consider a 168.005 (date)? I only ask as there are lots more 168’s about. However they do seem to be getting harder to find these days. When I bought mine about nine years ago there was a lot more to choose from. If you’re happy taking the easy route and spending £2 -£3k you shouldn’t have a problem finding one. If you can wait then patience is the name of the game.
 
lawler
Posts
209
Likes
199
Thank you for the detailed feedback.

I think this is one to avoid then, especially at this price point.

I will keep on with the hunt!
 
lawler
Posts
209
Likes
199
I am also primarily interested in a 167.005 (without date) rather than a 168.005 (with date), although, if the right one pops up I would go for either.
 
gatorcpa
Posts
13,333
Likes
18,473
Peemacgee Peemacgee
I’m a little surprised a 1963 watch has such a hard edged / stepped pie pan - they’re usually much softer until a little later in the decade.
upload_2024-1-24_11-26-3.jpeg


Here's mine, from 1964. Very heavy pie-folds.
gatorcpa
 
lawler
Posts
209
Likes
199
Does the model offered by WOL suffer from heavy over polishing then from the pictures?
 
Peemacgee
Posts
6,320
Likes
9,764
lawler lawler
Does the model offered by WOL suffer from heavy over polishing then from the pictures?

Peemacgee Peemacgee
The watch is quite nice but unfortunately has been prepped for sale so the case is softer than it should be.
It’s not too badly polished and would still look good on the wrist but they have removed the sharp facet edges which make these watches a delight.
 
Noddyman
Posts
1,117
Likes
1,791
lawler lawler
Does the model offered by WOL suffer from heavy over polishing then from the pictures?
It’s not heavily polished but definitely polished. I’ve had dealings with WOL and the owner told me all watches are polished and serviced as part of the prepping process.
 
lawler
Posts
209
Likes
199
Are there any good pictures examples of a crisp, unpolished example available?

I wonder if it may look better in person and the pictures just aren't doing it justice.
 
Dan S
Posts
24,348
Likes
54,193
lawler lawler
I wonder if it may look better in person and the pictures just aren't doing it justice.
There is no question that the case is polished and not terribly sharp. With experience, it's possible to see the clear signs in the photos, and I think you can trust @Peemacgee's expert opinion.

However, it may be perfectly acceptable to you, so you should go see the watch in person. Maybe you will fall in love with it and willingly pay the asking price. When you are asking collectors, we already have a lot of watches so we're willing to be patient for great examples and/or good prices. But you may not be as patient and you may not care as much about paying more if it's going to be a one-off purchase.
 
lawler
Posts
209
Likes
199
I will swerve this one then and remain patient.

Thank you all for your sage advice.
 
Bruce235
Posts
897
Likes
1,643
lawler lawler
I am also primarily interested in a 167.005 (without date) rather than a 168.005 (with date), although, if the right one pops up I would go for either.
Don't forget the 14900
1000002556.jpg
 
kkt
Posts
1,699
Likes
1,654
These are not rarer than hen's teeth. I found one after keeping an eye on the for sale ads here after a year and a half or two years. It wasn't any £3000 either, though that was a few years ago. Could probably have found something sooner by searching watchrecon.com, ebay, and reddit as well. But you do have to be especially careful. Good luck with your search!
 
lawler
Posts
209
Likes
199
kkt kkt
These are not rarer than hen's teeth. I found one after keeping an eye on the for sale ads here after a year and a half or two years. It wasn't any £3000 either, though that was a few years ago. Could probably have found something sooner by searching watchrecon.com, ebay, and reddit as well. But you do have to be especially careful. Good luck with your search!
Thanks for the advice - I’ll check those places out as well.
 
32 More Posts...
Sign up or log in to reply...

Similar threads

vishsam

Sourcing Omega acrylic crystal px5022

vishsam Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice
impalla62ss
impalla62ss
Posts
4
Views
762
dougwhiz

Omega Constellation 167.005 Piepan - BOR - Serviced

dougwhiz Private Watch Sales
ErichKeane
ErichKeane
Posts
2
Views
789
bkomegaman

Recently Purchased Omega Constellation 167.005, good deal?

bkomegaman Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice
bkomegaman
bkomegaman
Posts
10
Views
1K
workandturn

Advice on Selling in the UK

workandturn Open Discussion
workandturn
workandturn
Posts
10
Views
529
E

Help sourcing Omega Seamaster 166.010 (chronometer) dial

evanhills Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice
Syrte
Syrte
Posts
6
Views
3K
Aludic

Omega Constellation 167.005 dial

Aludic Wanted To Buy
Aludic
Aludic
Posts
3
Views
956