So... any of our members here have an interest in firearms?

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Some crazy beeeeeeeeeuwtiful issued 1911s here. I for some reason also feel its just wrong shooting land-fill guns. Must be solid steel (unless its a double stacked 1911, which can be forgiven for the grip, because they still shoot exceptionally, and the extra rounds may come in handy).

Found something local to me last year with not the best photos. Claim was ‘maybe unshot’, but the photos were bad, and it looked like it had a life.

But i went to look anyway…




And boy was i surprised.



A lowly series 80. But mint. The serial number dates it to ~1982.



The young guy i bought it from didn’t know how to disassemble it.



The bushing/spring cap had no marks on it.

He told me he had never shot it. He only had it for a year. I field stripped it. Was a bit worried about the bushing, as these have a collet bushing, which can be problematic if not treated with respect.



There were no marks on the black barrel…the barrel and bushing usually rub in/out of each other as the slide cycles…and that wears through to steel. Everything looked new. No wear here, not even marks. Mint++.

It came with its original box…and polystyrene inner! SN a match! No papers unfortunately.

It was a bit dry, and i was starting to think that maybe it was unshot. So i did a total disassembly…



All i saw was some red from light corrosion. If you have ever cleaned a firearm, you will know that no matter how much you clean it, the cleaning pads always come off with black residue. This came out without any black anywhere, just red, and I cleaned and oiled everything, intimately 😀 .

Story has it that it sat in a collection of 700+ firearms from a collector (i traced it to a large auction). To me it looks like it had never been wiped down/oiled - if one looks at the slide under direct sunlight, there is a slight stain in the blueing where it was handled) … it had also never been cleaned (and no gunpowder residue came up anywhere, all cleaning pads rusty red).

At least now its well oiled. I haven’t shot it. Not sure i ever will. Am i a fool?!

Thanks for reading!
Yessir! No landfill grade material needed for firearms here. Forged steel for me please.

Tyat's an awfully nice Colt you have there, eugeneanddresson.
 
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For our UK members, I present an uncommon one over here in the states.

A BSA Martini International target rifle. 22LR

Has the optional Parker Hale sights. And the mounts for optics too.

29" HEAVY barrel. This puppy weights 15lbs.

Action is slick as dog poop. What's very cool is the entire action is easily removed with that one fat screw on the side of the receiver. You can clean anything at that point and easily slide a cleaning rod through the rear chamber.

I have never in my life seen one of these, and I found it tucked away in a deep corner of an old gun shop. They didn't even remember they had it.

Date is approx 1953. The accuracy was the best in the business, and stellar still today. Each rifle had to produce THREE CONSECUTIVE sub 1" 10shot groups at 100 yards. That's incredible precision even today.

My eyes may never be able to shoot anywhere close to that but its a fine example of the best of UK target rifle craftsmanship.

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For our UK members, I present an uncommon one over here in the states.

A BSA Martini International target rifle. 22LR

Has the optional Parker Hale sights. And the mounts for optics too.

29" HEAVY barrel. This puppy weights 15lbs.

Slick as dog poop action. What's very cool is the entire action is easily removed with that one fat screw on the side of the receiver. You can clean anything at that point and easily slide a cleaning rod through the rear chamber.

I have never in my life seen one of these, and I found it tucked away in a deep corner of an old gun shop. They didn't even remember they had it.

Date is approx 1953. The accuracy was the best in the business, and stellar still today. Each rifle had to produce THREE CONSECUTIVE sub 1" 10shot groups at 100 yards. That's incredible precision even today.

My eyes may never be able to shoot anywhere close to that but its a fine example of the best of UK target rifle craftsmanship.

OOOooo...!!! That is so fine!
 
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It wasn't intentional, but I color coordinated this morning when I was getting ready for work.
 
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It wasn't intentional, but I color coordinated this morning when I was getting ready for work.
And what kind of work may that be, or shouldn’t I ask! 😁
 
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And what kind of work may that be, or shouldn’t I ask! 😁
I am a man of danger and intrigue, well traveled and sophisticated.

Actually, I manage a pawn shop. Not very glamorous, actually. Unfortunately, we rarely see any fine watches.
 
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A BSA Martini International target rifle. 22LR
I always liked the Martini action.
I had an ex Australian Army cadet rifle converted to a 357 Magnum with a 20 inch barrel. Made an excellent pig gun, but I alway made sure my shooting buddy had an auto/pump/bolt action piece just in case.
 
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Shootin’ with an old Gruen? Darn tootin.


19 metres untimed. Full sun. Very windy. Not perfect but not bad.
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Shootin’ with an old Gruen? Darn tootin.

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19 metres untimed. Full sun. Very windy. Not perfect but not bad.
You're a lefty, huh?

That's not bad shooting for 20 yards.

I appreciate that you brought one proper revolver with you in the form of that New Service.
 
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You're a lefty, huh?

That's not bad shooting for 20 yards.

I appreciate that you brought one proper revolver with you in the form of that New Service.

Right handed but back in 1989 at Basic Police Training we had to qualify - furthest distance was 50 m with a model 10. We fired right and left hand.

The 50 m distance was dropped around 1993. Now it’s maximum 25 m, but a colleague back in 1995 shot a suspect who was actively shooting at him at 80 m.

Dropped him with one shot. Suspect was firing a shotgun at him.

Note that metres are more than yards, but today I was going by long paces so my 19 m could be averaged down in between that and 19 yards.

Today I shot right handed but took the photo with my right hand.

Good eye Walt.

Would love to fire that Colt one day. Need to find new ammo for it. The ammo I have looks older than the gun!
 
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Right handed but back in 1989 at Basic Police Training we had to qualify - furthest distance was 50 m with a model 10. We fired right and left hand.

The 50 m distance was dropped around 1993. Now it’s maximum 25 m, but a colleague back in 1995 shot a suspect who was actively shooting at him at 80 m.

Dropped him with one shot. Suspect was firing a shotgun at him.

Note that metres are more than yards, but today I was going by long paces so my 19 m could be averaged down in between that and 19 yards.

Today I shot right handed but took the photo with my right hand.

Good eye Walt.

Would love to fire that Colt one day. Need to find new ammo for it. The ammo I have looks older than the gun!

I understand the need to be able to shoot with your non dominate hand. My lefty shooting is passable but I won't compete in any bullseye matches as a lefty.

Qualifying at 50m seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Shooting at someone with a shootgun at 80m does not seem reasonable to me. 🤣

I wondered about the watch on the left wrist and the gun in your left hand. The logistics of photography eloquently explains it.

Is 45 Colt hard to come by in Canada?
 
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I understand the need to be able to shoot with your non dominate hand. My lefty shooting is passable but I won't compete in any bullseye matches as a lefty.

Qualifying at 50m seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Shooting at someone with a shootgun at 80m does not seem reasonable to me. 🤣

I wondered about the watch on the left wrist and the gun in your left hand. The logistics of photography eloquently explains it.

Is 45 Colt hard to come by in Canada?
I'm right handed and left eye dominant. I have learned to with either hand. Fantastic with handguns. Can't shoot long guns righty at all.
 
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Photographic evidence that the lesser species can do two things at the same time…shooting two different ways simultaneously … amazing! Well done good Sir !
 
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I understand the need to be able to shoot with your non dominate hand. My lefty shooting is passable but I won't compete in any bullseye matches as a lefty.

Qualifying at 50m seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Shooting at someone with a shootgun at 80m does not seem reasonable to me. 🤣

I wondered about the watch on the left wrist and the gun in your left hand. The logistics of photography eloquently explains it.

Is 45 Colt hard to come by in Canada?

I haven’t looked for 45 ammo.

As for the shotgun at 80 m. The officer was seeing a long gun and it was being discharged in his direction.

Could not differentiate in the milliseconds that he had to react.

As a use of force instructor I understand that each scenario is unique.

Example, the availability of cover, presence of other potential victims, ability to disengage etc…

Without recalling the whole sequence of events, I cannot put myself in that officer’s shoes.

Three elements were present that always help determine if a threat is imminent, however..

1) intent (he is shooting at me)

2) Means: (Long gun) and

3) Opportunity: (80 m with a knife would not cut it - pun intended. With a long gun? You bet.).

Can you tell that I made a living teaching that stuff?😉 Oh, and a shotgun slug is still deadly at 80 m.
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Found this old box with some goodies still inside…. Even the original wax paper! 😎



Unfortunately the hand cannon is long gone.

If anyone has a colt
3-5-7 with serial number 27110 I have your stuff. 😁
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I haven’t looked for 45 ammo.

As for the shotgun at 80 m. The officer was seeing a long gun and it was being discharged in his direction.

Could not differentiate in the milliseconds that he had to react.

As a use of force instructor I understand that each scenario is unique.

Example, the availability of cover, presence of other potential victims, ability to disengage etc…

Without recalling the whole sequence of events, I cannot put myself in that officer’s shoes.

Three elements were present that always help determine if a threat is imminent, however..

1) intent (he is shooting at me)

2) Means: (Long gun) and

3) Opportunity: (80 m with a knife would not cut it - pun intended. With a long gun? You bet.).

Can you tell that I made a living teaching that stuff?😉 Oh, and a shotgun slug is still deadly at 80 m.
At 80m a handgun is plenty lethal, as evidenced by the outcome, seeing a gunman with a long gun firing at you at that distance, the only reasonable reaction is to return fire. No question that officer reacted correctly in that situation.
 
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At 80m a handgun is plenty lethal, as evidenced by the outcome, seeing a gunman with a long gun firing at you at that distance, the only reasonable reaction is to return fire. No question that officer reacted correctly in that situation.

Oh right on Walt. I misinterpreted what you meant initially. We’re in agreement!
 
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Happy little gun show find. Colt Model 1917 in 357 Magnum.

What's that you say? 357 didn't come out til the 1930s?

Well yes! This is a conversion from 45 to 357, probably in the late 50s early 60s. The conversion barrel and cylinder were sold by Numrich around that time.

Still has the US army inventory number on the butt frame. Originally built in 1919.

Classic (and real) Mother of Pearl grips.

Perfect bluing. Perfect mechanics.

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