Sleeper 321 Speedy on eBay

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the problem was the bid was on going and suddenly someone was sneaking to change the rules in the middle, when from the beginning it was not a bin item.
They have done what they have done willingly, and within the system’s rules. No rules were broken (by either party) and everyone is happy! (well, maybe with the exception of a few jealous or disgruntled “would be” bidders...).
 
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I'm certainly not jealous nor disgruntled. I've gotten deals before and have been happy with it. I just find this instance a bit predatory, which doesn't look great from a community that I consider myself a member of.
 
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I've looked at the seller's feedback, and they are definitely experienced. If they chose to take a quick sale from a buyer that made them feel comfortable, over an an uncertain auction (that can always result in a non-paying winner), I'm not going to criticize them or the buyer.
 
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I've looked at the seller's feedback, and they are definitely experienced. If they chose to take a quick sale from a buyer that made them feel comfortable, over an an uncertain auction (that can always result in a non-paying winner), I'm not going to criticize them or the buyer.
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I'm certainly not jealous nor disgruntled. I've gotten deals before and have been happy with it. I just find this instance a bit predatory, which doesn't look great from a community that I consider myself a member of.
Well, with 93 posts in five and a half years since you joined OF you aren't exactly a pillar of the community.
I can't be bothered to check but I hope your previous posts weren't as pious as your last few.
 
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How many speedmaster 321 he sold?
I might agree if the majority of the items they were selling were used Matchbox cars and happened to stumble on the occasional watch and had zero knowledge or experience in that particular field.. But when you’re buying & selling jewelry/watches online for 15 years? Dude...

Here’s one for you. A Toyota car dealer with 15 years of experience in the car dealing world finds this old and rusty Ferrari in a barn and buys it for a few hundreds or a couple of thousands. He has to have some knowledge to at least know he’s safe with his initial investment. Then our car dealer friend goes and lists it on Craigslist as “taking offers” without even putting in 5 minutes of further research about his newly acquired FERRARI and accepts a 10K offer from the first guy that rolls in and offers him a substantial sum on that rust bucket he just bought.
Turns out this “Rust bucket” is a 275 GTB worth Millions.
Was the car dealer “Scammed” or “Had the rug pulled from under him” in this transaction? Or was he just too lazy or stupid to not further research his FERRARI and get the highest price possible for it?
 
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Well, with 93 posts in five and a half years since you joined OF you aren't exactly a pillar of the community.
I can't be bothered to check but I hope your previous posts weren't as pious as your last few.

They're not. Thanks for summing me up by my posts.
 
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There is a difference, as in this particular case, (to use your analogy) “The old lady” that was charged 2,000 to fix her 750 roof is actually a roofer herself... 😉

Maybe in this case the guy sells watches ... but for the most part when the pants are pulled down somewhat, the seller does not.
 
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I can't believe this thread is still going...this happens every single hour of every day. Caveat emptor / venditor. Let's move on, since this has devolved into name calling.
 
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They're not. Thanks for summing me up by my posts.
You're welcome.
I see now you're a seller of replica straps and other replica watch related stuff. Keep up the useful contributions to the forum.
 
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You're welcome.
I see now you're a seller of replica straps and other replica watch related stuff. Keep up the useful contributions to the forum.

No problem, I will.
 
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What was the high bid before the seller relisted with the BIN?
 
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What was the high bid before the seller relisted with the BIN?

About $3,300 last I saw
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One of the reasons why some sellers will take a good offer on eBay is this>

A lot of sellers don't like completing auctions on eBay these days due to the amount of non paying bidders at the end of the auction, I think many sellers professional and non professional would rather take a bid they are happy with than leave the auction running. Non paying winning bidders are all too common these days, not only wasting a week of the auction running but also another week while the non paying bidder process goes through.
Many of my watches go to other dealers who sell them on at a higher price, good luck to them I say.
People usually don't like buy it now prices either unless you are giving things away, psychologically nobody wants to pay the asking price even though it might be cheaper than previously sold items or not.
So sellers either run the risk of the auction process or sell items for a bid they are happy with.
I would much rather sell a watch cheaper to a collector or dealer than run the gauntlet of eBay and the non paying bidders who in fact devalue your items when you have to relist them, people think there is something wrong with the item because it has been relisted or you are a shill bidder bidding your items up from another username.
I used to love the auction process, it was exciting but now find it can be a big waste of time, the amount of people not paying for auctions has ruined it I think.
 
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A lot of sellers don't like completing auctions on eBay these days due to the amount of non paying bidders at the end of the auction, I think many sellers professional and non professional would rather take a bid they are happy with than leave the auction running.

And even amongst people who pay, there is a certain fraction who later try to extort a partial refund by claiming there is something wrong with the watch. Others are newbies with unrealistic expectations about vintage watch timekeeping.
 
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Do any of you ever go to flea markets/car boot sales/garage sales/similar events?
And while scanning the offers and seeing something interesting, do you tell the seller that his or her asking price is way too low if that is the case?
Or do you pick it up and just pay the asking price and feel good that you didn't haggle?

If you always tell the seller that the price is too low and that you'll pay market, fine, criticize.
If not, .....

I know, its a hypothetical question, because mostly nowadays the prices asked at those events seem - in my eyes - to be very ambitious.

This is my ~$3 Seiko 6105-8110 that I found at a flea market July this year:

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I am currently offering it for sale at x 450 the purchase price (after an extensive restoration, but still...).

At the same flee market, another vendor used her smartphone to find the average asking price for a type of vintage porcelain dinner plate that we are collecting a set of. We declined her offer politely and moved on - last month I bought the 14 plates I needed from a charity shop at 1/3 of her price.

A number of points here, I think.

- If you insist on a certain price level for your stuff, be prepared to wait for the right customer.

- If you are not desperately in need of something, wait until the better offer show up.

- Don't sell 6105-8110s for pocket change.
 
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OMG why didn't this thread die after the end of page two!?!? Everything was already said by then.

Now to read the last 2 pages and see if anyone came up with a new argument.
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This is my ~$3 Seiko 6105-8110 that I found at a flea market July this year:
Looks like Copenhagen is the place for watches. I'm on my way 😉