Sleeper 321 Speedy on eBay

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Well, I was bidding and watching this auction until it shut down, relisted as a Buy It Now, and someone snatched it for $5,500 in just a few minutes.

Which one of you snipes was it? Great find.
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I was watching too thought it will end tomorrow until I saw your thread. Seller may have an offer and relist as a buy it now so the person who offered 5500 may buy it now.
 
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I was watching too thought it will end tomorrow until I saw your thread. Seller may have an offer and relist as a buy it now so the person who offered 5500 may buy it now.

That's exactly what happened. Someone probably messaged and made an offer, the seller ended it and sent a link to the BIN. For a decent 145.012, someone got a nice price. I took the liberty of emailing the seller and telling them they could have gotten about $9,000 if they had asked around before listing. Oh well.
 
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Wow. Wasn't me this time! And one of the reasons why is because I only buy my 321 Speedies if they have a fresh battery! 😜

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That's exactly what happened. Someone probably messaged and made an offer, the seller ended it and sent a link to the BIN. For a decent 145.012, someone got a nice price. I took the liberty of emailing the seller and telling them they could have gotten about $9,000 if they had asked around before listing. Oh well.
Bracelet is 1175 so noyt worth 9000 in my opinion it may be a 67 or 68 transitional too. Since seller doesnt have a movement pix.
 
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Bracelet is 1175 so noyt worth 9000 in my opinion it may be a 67 or 68 transitional too. Since seller doesnt have a movement pix.
Could be, but it's still worth more than $5500
 
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Well, the seller and I had a good chat, and they are OK with the outcome. They have all the info now and will honor the sale with eyes open, so I at least feel a bit better that someone wasn't duping anyone.
 
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I also lost interest in the watch when I saw that it didn't include a battery.
 
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Well, the seller and I had a good chat, and they are OK with the outcome. They have all the info now and will honor the sale with eyes open, so I at least feel a bit better that someone wasn't duping anyone.
In my opinion, (and I really don’t want to steer this thread into a whole “Ethics debate”) it was not your duty or place to have any discussion with the seller after the sale to let them know that they might have sold the watch for a cheaper price than they could have gotten had they left it up for auction.
Obviously, they were fine and happy with their decision to sell the watch at the price that they were offered.
With 437 feedbacks on eBay, they are obviously no “Internet newbies” and in this day and age (we’re a few days from 2020) to not be able to at least google the fact that this is not a battery operated watch, they deserved every penny that they got, and did not deserve each and every penny they didn’t... #crymeariver #noneedforheroes
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In my opinion, (and I really don’t want to steer this thread into a whole “Ethics debate”) it was not your duty or place to have any discussion with the seller after the sale to let them know that they might have sold the watch for a cheaper price than they could have gotten had they left it up for auction.
Obviously, they were fine and happy with their decision to sell the watch at the price that they were offered.
With 437 feedbacks on eBay, they are obviously no “Internet newbies” and in this day and age (we’re a few days from 2020) to not be able to at least google the fact that this is not a battery operated watch, they deserved every penny that they got, and did not deserve each and every penny they didn’t... #crymeariver #noneedforheroes
Absolutely.
 
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The seller was actually defrauded.
No they weren’t. They still have the watch. (Trust me, they didn’t ship it anywhere on a Saturday night), As you’ve read above, they were told after the sale that they are selling it for a cheap price, and if they are still going to go through with the transaction, then I can’t say I feel even a bit sorry for them, and my statement above only further seals the deal, because if they would have taken the watch to the local “Watch repair guy” to change the battery and he would have offered them $500 for it, they probably would have taken that too... #OneCanOnlyBeSoStupid
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In my opinion, (and I really don’t want to steer this thread into a whole “Ethics debate”) it was not your duty or place to have any discussion with the seller after the sale to let them know that they might have sold the watch for a cheaper price than they could have gotten had they left it up for auction.
Obviously, they were fine and happy with their decision to sell the watch at the price that they were offered.
With 437 feedbacks on eBay, they are obviously no “Internet newbies” and in this day and age (we’re a few days from 2020) to not be able to at least google the fact that this is not a battery operated watch, they deserved every penny that they got, and did not deserve each and every penny they didn’t... #crymeariver #noneedforheroes

Agree. The seller had the option to do due diligence on their sale, the watch obviously did not owe them much. Both happy, end of story.
As an aside I love my 1175 bracelet, maybe it's not a value add for some but very comfortable.
 
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In my opinion, (and I really don’t want to steer this thread into a whole “Ethics debate”) it was not your duty or place to have any discussion with the seller after the sale to let them know that they might have sold the watch for a cheaper price than they could have gotten had they left it up for auction.
Obviously, they were fine and happy with their decision to sell the watch at the price that they were offered.
With 437 feedbacks on eBay, they are obviously no “Internet newbies” and in this day and age (we’re a few days from 2020) to not be able to at least google the fact that this is not a battery operated watch, they deserved every penny that they got, and did not deserve each and every penny they didn’t... #crymeariver #noneedforheroes
Well another ethical view is to be found in how fair it is for buyers to tap up auction sellers with seemingly generous but actually lowball offers in an effort to circumvent the auction process and take advantage of the sellers naivety. I wouldn’t be contacting this seller personally since they let their greed and ignorance get in the way of a higher sale price, so I don’t have massive sympathy but I think buyers who do this are acting in pretty snake like fashion and aren’t IMO to be trusted since their ethics are presumably flexible. There I said it.
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how fair it is
Let’s face facts. This world is not fair.
In 2020, with an internet presence, they can’t figure out that an Omega Speedmaster is not a battery operated watch, and on top of that were told after the sale that they’re selling the watch cheap and still going to go through with the transaction then it’s on them. And if they got paid $5,500 for their “Stupidity” then Heck, they’re probably the highest paid stupid people in the entire country today! They should feel ever so lucky!
 
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Let’s face facts. This world is not fair.
In 2020, with an internet presence, they can’t figure out that an Omega Speedmaster is not a battery operated watch, and on top of that were told after the sale that they’re selling the watch cheap and still going to go through with the transaction then it’s on them. And if they got paid $5,500 for their “Stupidity” then Heck, they’re probably the highest paid stupid people in the entire country today! They should feel ever so lucky!
Thanks for being so frank. It makes it easier all round.
 
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I have bought many watches at bargain prices on eBay over the years, only to have some helpful person contact the seller after the money has changed hands to tell them they had sold it too cheaply and that they will pay more, the refund then follows,, I could have done that a million times but just think to myself “good score” for someone, smile and move on.
If an adult seller who can list on eBay cannot do a bit of research on a watch they have and are happy with an offer or a buy it now request, that is fine. They could have paid someone $20 for it who knows?
I found myself researching dolls the other day, not my area but I took the time to check.
At the price the person paid for this watch it is still a bit of a gamble without seeing the movement which could be a mess or incorrect. ( I doubt it though)
I find it a bit spiteful to contact the seller after the sale but others will disagree of course.
I’m sure these people wouldn’t like it doing to themselves.
 
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My guess would be that this is a 145.022-68 based on the hands. It looks like they came with the watch. But it also look like a bit of chrono creep.