Should I not wear vintage Speedy before service?

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My point is that the worst thing that can happen when wearing the watch is that the movement gets damaged, but who cares about the movement? The case, dial and hands are much more valuable...

Well, it's not entirely true that those other parts are much more valuable than movements in general, but from a purely mercenary perspective, your attitude is understandable. If you are thinking mainly about resale value, it's best not to have watches serviced.

You can do whatever you want with your collection, and in fact you can collect whatever you want. Some people have outstanding dial collections, and valuable collections of non-working watches. Others have fantastic collections of uncased movements.

Everyone is free to choose their own path, but "who cares about the movement" is probably not the most common attitude amongst real aficionados. And a surprising admission from someone who is apparently trying to sell so many watches in the Private Sales section on a regular basis.
 
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Everyone is free to choose their own path

The OP asked about risks, well turns out that servicing a vintage watch like his is riskier than wearing it. I thought he should know.
 
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"who cares about the movement" is probably not the most common attitude amongst real aficionados.

You can almost always repair a movement, not a dial. That's the context in which you must read me.
 
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You can almost always repair a movement, not a dial. That's the context in which you must read me.

Dials of all kinds and all values are removed and installed on watches every day all over the world without incident. While there is always some risk, you are most certainly overstating it in a big way.

Either that or you have a terrible watchmaker...
 
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Dials of all kinds and all values are removed and installed on watches every day all over the world without incident. While there is always some risk, you are most certainly overstating it in a big way.

Fair enough
 
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well turns out that servicing a vintage watch like his is riskier than wearing it. I thought he should know.
You really need to find a new watchmaker. You shouldn’t feel like you’re rolling the dice each time you have a watch serviced.
 
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While I don't share bananpeanut's concern re: my watchmaker damaging my dial, I have read of instances of watches sent for "routine" service that were lost in the mail, stolen, dials redone, cases polished, etc. And I have STILL yet to read of a single instance where a watch suffered major damage from failure to do preventive maintenance.
 
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While I don't share bananpeanut's concern re: my watchmaker damaging my dial, I have read of instances of watches sent for "routine" service that were lost in the mail, stolen, dials redone, cases polished, etc. And I have STILL yet to read of a single instance where a watch suffered major damage from failure to do preventive maintenance.

So you've never heard of a case where a vintage watch needed a replacement part that wasn't available? Really?

I can assure you that this isn't uncommon; I've experienced it many times. In the best case scenario, you can simply buy a replacement part. Otherwise, you may have to buy a parts movement, which can be expensive and time-consuming, if not impossible. In a worse case, you may need to have a part fabricated; not only is that expensive, but it's getting harder to find someone to do it. Worst case scenario is that repairing the movement isn't plausible, and it becomes a parts movement.

I would wager that most experienced vintage watch collectors have encountered all of these scenarios, unless they only purchase from dealers who have already made repairs. If you keep collecting, I imagine that you'll develop a different perspective.
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To clarify, I am referring to vintage Omegas only. And no, I have not. But I am all ears..........
 
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To clarify, I am referring to vintage Omegas only. And no, I have not. But I am all ears..........

If you are truly a long-time Omega collector who has never encountered a movement that needed an unavailable replacement part, you must be the luckiest man alive. Cheers to you.
 
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You might as well add some photos. Congratulations!
Thanks for reminding. Here are some photos. It’s lived a life, with documented provenance in Vietnam. It’s a 220 “Error bezel” sold for just couple months in fall of 1970, and Extract obtained confirms delivery to Japan September 1970. Original owner probably bought it on leave. I was looking for original example, took a chance with scratched crystal obscuring dial. After several sessions with polywatch a very nice dial was found and I believe this is all original with period correct Omega logo on crystal, and correct crown and pushers Orig 1116 bracelet. Scars on the bezel, which I will keep as tribute to original owner. No evidence of service marks inside. Gasket was disintegrated and I replaced with new one.
It winds and runs smoothly and I plan to have it serviced in next month or so as I’m quite sure it is long overdue.
It’s not the watch I would pick for my daughters wedding so that’s not an issue but I’ve been wearing it for a week or so before I wondered if this is good idea hence the question.
I will now only wear it briefly and unwound before the service. Thank you to all for your advice on this old Speedy warrior which I’m quite happy to welcome into the collection. I was a teenager at the time of the Lunar landing and vividly recall looking up at the Moon through my fathers telescope shortly after they landed.
 
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Thanks for reminding. Here are some photos. It’s lived a life, with documented provenance in Vietnam. It’s a 220 “Error bezel” sold for just couple months in fall of 1970, and Extract obtained confirms delivery to Japan September 1970. Original owner probably bought it on leave. I was looking for original example, took a chance with scratched crystal obscuring dial. After several sessions with polywatch a very nice dial was found and I believe this is all original with period correct Omega logo on crystal, and correct crown and pushers Orig 1116 bracelet. Scars on the bezel, which I will keep as tribute to original owner. No evidence of service marks inside. Gasket was disintegrated and I replaced with new one.
It winds and runs smoothly and I plan to have it serviced in next month or so as I’m quite sure it is long overdue.
It’s not the watch I would pick for my daughters wedding so that’s not an issue but I’ve been wearing it for a week or so before I wondered if this is good idea hence the question.
I will now only wear it briefly and unwound before the service. Thank you to all for your advice on this old Speedy warrior which I’m quite happy to welcome into the collection. I was a teenager at the time of the Lunar landing and vividly recall looking up at the Moon through my fathers telescope shortly after they landed.
Movement and inside Caseback pics from seller.
 
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While I don't share bananpeanut's concern re: my watchmaker damaging my dial, I have read of instances of watches sent for "routine" service that were lost in the mail, stolen, dials redone, cases polished, etc. And I have STILL yet to read of a single instance where a watch suffered major damage from failure to do preventive maintenance.

What do you consider "major damage"?
 
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What do you consider "major damage"?
Any repair in which a replacement part cannot be located, or if the cost of the subsequent repair greatly exceeds the "routine" maintenance.
 
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If you are truly a long-time Omega collector who has never encountered a movement that needed an unavailable replacement part, you must be the luckiest man alive. Cheers to you.
I have been collecting vintage Omegas for ~ 35 years, currently own ~ 60. But I am not just referring to my personal experience: I have never seen such a problem posted by any collector.
If you have specific examples, please share them.
 
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You would need to have a watchmaker check it on a timing machine, and perform a visual inspection on the movement to confirm the condition

I have a few watches (wrist and pocket) and do not service them every five years, as suggested elsewhere. If a watch has been laying some time, I wind it two or three turns and check the amplitude on the time grapher. If it is less than lets say 220°, then the watch is scheduled for service or left alone for the time being.

I have in decades never experienced worn or perhaps even bent or broken pivots, except in cases where I have purchased a watch as defect. I always wonder how such damage like the one in this post can occur.

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Result of wearing an unserviced watch regularly:

I am lucky to be able to carry out a service myself (including complications, like minute repeater). Indeed dials are often damaged by "professionals" when removing the hands in an inappropriate manner
 
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I have been collecting vintage Omegas for ~ 35 years, currently own ~ 60. But I am not just referring to my personal experience: I have never seen such a problem posted by any collector.
If you have specific examples, please share them.

My experience so different from yours, it's almost hard to comprehend that in all those years of collecting you have never even heard of a single situation where someone had to replace one or multiple expensive and hard-to-find parts.

I'm really not inclined to write up detailed case histories to satisfy your curiosity, but I'll give a general overview. On at least half a dozen occasions, a watch has needed multiple parts replaced, doubling (or more) the cost of a routine service. Many vintage parts cost $50 or more from a supplier, and some can climb as high as $200 (e.g. balances or rare chronograph parts), so the costs can add up. I can recall at least two watches where it was more effective to purchase a parts movement. On one occasion, it was necessary to fabricate a part and replace several other parts. And I can remember at least two watches where it simply wasn't cost effective for me to repair a movement and I abandoned it. Amazing that you have never experienced, or even heard of, any of these scenarios.
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I have in decades never experienced worn or perhaps even bent or broken pivots, except in cases where I have purchased a watch as defect. I always wonder how such damage like the one in this post can occur.

How closely are you looking? Here's a customer's watch that he gave to his father new, 7 years before it came to me for service, and was worn daily...ETA 2824-2 inside. Looking at the condition of the jewels before disassembly, you see either dried up oils or products of wear. Here are the jewels and the condition of the pivots - escape wheel:





Intermediate wheel:





Third wheel:





Seconds wheel:





In my experience, it's rare to have a watch come in for service that doesn't have at least 1 worn part inside...
 
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Any repair in which a replacement part cannot be located, or if the cost of the subsequent repair greatly exceeds the "routine" maintenance.

If you have never had or seen this happen, you are incredibly fortunate. I see watches that lack of regular servicing causes problems all the time. How much of a problem varies of course, and it can be minor certainly, but it can also be very bad...a watch that is flooded and rusted into a solid mass because it leaked in the ocean:





It required a completely new movement...



If this had been a valuable vintage watch, well the cost would have been even higher. This is a $1,400 movement.

But more along the lines of what the OP has, here's a 1978 Speedmaster that "just" had a leak in the crown...


There is extensive rust damage, requiring many new parts, and a lot of additional labour.

For wear, well that can be easy, or it can be difficult - it really depends on how available parts are for vintage watches. It may also depend on what your standards are for performance. If you don't care about specific things, or your watchmaker doesn't inform you of them, they might be irrelevant to you but still be there. For example wear on the ends of the balance staff from lack of servicing is common. This can sometime be corrected by burnishing the pivot on a Jacot:



To take it from this, where the end has flattened from wear:



To this, where the pivot is properly rounded:



You would only know this is you have positional information from your watchmaker (or had your own timing machine) to see that the balance amplitudes or timing were different dial up and dial down. But if the staff is really worn, then it requires replacement - some staffs are very difficult to find, and when you do, they aren't cheap. Most watch companies don;t sell staff anymore -= I recently bought out the entire supply from one material house of Omega 861 staffs. I also bought some generic staffs for the caliber, but they are not good enough quality to use. One could have a staff made but that would likely cost more than a complete standard service.

If neither of those are options, then a new balance complete would be needed - these can be $500+

If you don't see any value in doing maintenance, so be it. Not here to change your mind, but really just pointing out that shit does happen, and sometimes it's bad.
 
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I have been collecting vintage Omegas for ~ 35 years, currently own ~ 60. But I am not just referring to my personal experience: I have never seen such a problem posted by any collector.
If you have specific examples, please share them.
Do you not own anything with a 321 movement, or just don’t have them serviced? Many parts NLA and the new 321 hasn’t made it easier yet.